[ Closed ] v1.1b5.2 distributive mostly the same b4 + new base SASL plugin (Page 4 of 6)

Hi Jar

Thanks for the latest rc1-version! I'm wondering if that problem will be solved perhaps for the next version?

http://jardesign.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1038

I hope you did not forgot it? ;-)

Thanks a lot & cheers
Franz

DIR TO  on approach    the waypoint  selected is deleted and heading to   the next waypoint ??? you have to select the waypoint before the one you  selected ...

Never see this before
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thanks for info, emha!

Since I downloaded this beta for the fist time, I never got it working. It always crashed to desktop. The weird thing (maybe not werid??) was that the stable "windows" version works perfectly fine without any crashes or significant bugs on any of my 10 flights.

Just now I figured that if i load this beta "windowed" (as opposed to full screen), it works! After loading it once it also works loading it with full screen. Finally I can start test flying this beta bird

To sum up my last two posts and an additional bug:

1) I've had problems with the A320 as well, and I am uncertain if the beta is better. I get fairly huge nodding action going on, and it is especially difficult on approaches as the plane is no where near a stable approach. It nodds up and down making it very hard to perform a safe landing. It is better when doing CAT III approaches with the AP, but even then there is some nodding. The roll action is perfectly stable. Again, I have the exact same "nodding bug" on the A320. I have several other payware (and freeware) aircrafts, only the A3X0 behaves like this. It is a bit funny as experienced yesterday, the A330 was very unstable on approach, relative winds something like 30015kts. My Cessna Corvallis TT was much easier on the approach.

Other people with this experience?

2) I experienced a bug when inputting a (unrealistically) short flight plan yesterday, from ESSA - ESSB (Sweden). I enter ESSA/ESSB on init page, then i do the fuel calculations, and when going to the flight plan page to insert one more waypoint (TEB, a VOR) I get a "flight plan discontinuity" on the A330 which i cannot delete. On the A320 the exact same flight plan works fine. Is this a bug? Does it have something to do with the weight and performance of the plane making the FP impossible on this aircraft vs the A320?
Its worth mentioning that Ive done about 10 normal (longer) flights with the A330, all without any problems like this, or any major problems at all. I am very happy with the work being put down

System:
iMac 27" late -13
i5
775m 2 GB RAM
16 GB system RAM
512 GB SSD
xPlane 10.36, FPS fairly stable at 26-30 fps.

I will give it another try and disconnect the joystick and report back, although this didnt have any implication/effekt on the nodding on the A320.

I am also under the impression that most users dont have this problem, although, as you know, there are several people reporting on this nodding phenomenon for the A320 in this thread.

Thanks for following up on this problem.

Thank you Captainbullet. I am using the Saitek Pro Flight controllers.  Yoke, throttles and pedals. Do you have this nodding effect? Either with the A320 or the A330?

I will have a new go today, and I will try disconnecting the yoke all together and only fly using my mouse. I will see how the plane behaves then. I do however have little belief in that the yoke causes this, as the input signals from the yoke, throttle and pedals (turned on in xplane preferences) are completely stable / 0, and I still get nodding.

Nodding explanation

This video I made shows the nodding problem I am experiencing. (Yes, I forgot to turn off the Skype call recording this video )

Again, my gut feeling is that external factors (wind) causes this. For instance, if I have heavy winds, I have heavy nodding. If i get sudden wind gusts from different angle, the plane noddes around the vertical (Yaw) and mostly the orisontal (pitch) axis. It never nodds around the longditudional axis (roll). If I turn off the wind and no input from yoke/pedals, I have no nodding at all.

If I for instance with 0 winds pull hard and quick (1 second) on the yoke (upward pitch) an then leave it in neutral position, the plane (of course) pitches quikly upwards lets say 5 degrees, but it continues by noding downwards eg. 4 degrees, then upwards 3 degrees, then downwards 2 degrees, upwards 1 degree, downwards 0,5 degree, till it finishes by being stable. I would expect the plane to only pitch upwards e.g. 5 degrees, then immediately become more or less stable... Again, the joystick input graf shows only the qiuck (1 second) pitch, then its completely stable with 0 inputs / yoke in senter.

I hope I managed to explain that somewhat ok. Of course, if I leave winds on, the plane nodds according to the relativ angle to the wind. I tried disconnecting the yoke twice before (during a _extremely_ helpfull Skype session with JAR himself watching me on Skype screen sharing), flying the aircraft with only the mouse, and I experienced the same nodding... I will try mouse-flying today again.

Ive tried the following without any difference in nodding
- disconnect yoke/pedals/throttles, and flying with mouse only
- setting all graphic settings to minimum, having fps <35
- changing / eliminating different therma wind (?) settings (updrafts etc.)
- turned off all plugins
- several different locations in the virtual world
- changing the "modeling update frequency pr. second) option in the preferences, between 2 and 5.
- turned off winds (this dramatically decreases - or should I say eliminates - the spontaneous nodding, but since I believe the nodding is secondary to external factors, this only hides the problem, it doesnt solve it. Pitching the plane gives post-pitching nodding effects just like before)
- latest updates to the aircraft (I feel the latest updates - especially the newer A320 beta - has helped the nodding somewhat, but I cannot say this for certain. The A330 i strongly believe behaves much better than the A320 nodding-wize.)

Lastly I just want to underline that I am only reporting heavily on the this problem because I really want to experiene it how it is meant to ble flown. I really like this plane in every other aspect, and I do not want to discurrage anyone from not buying this plane due to my problems Most people do not suffer from this problem anyways.

I will do anything i can to help you JAR, I love your work and the planes, even though I have this unfortunate problem

Thanks for tips.

I testet today with the mouse. Same nodding. So as far as I understand it, its got nothing to do with the Yoke. I want to try reinstalling xPlane. I have no idea if that would change anything..

Captain bullet and JAR, thanks for you inputs

Yeah, I wont reinstall the sim. at this point. I agree with you, I don't believe that will change anything..

will there be a new beta in the near future?

good day,
I can't explane how to up-load the log txt but there should be a //* choose file on the bottom and if it is not showing then you have to post the reply and then choose edit the post this will allow you to then post your log txt. because you will then see the choose file on the bottom of the page...

but was this the third flight from the time you downloaded the version of the aircraft ?
if so you should be good if you re start the computer then the X-plane app and and start the normal procedures.
captbullett