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DrGluck wrote:
ilankrt wrote:

Hallo JAR at last the expected step forward. Thanks !!  I am going today to make a test flight.

Warning for JAR aircraft user: Do not instal the offered "Terrain Radar". It might be nice for other aircraft models, but it cause heavy errors to JAR models. Deleting this plugin from plugin folder is not the end of the story because more files (.init) are left in X-Plane folder. I was working hard to find out that this was the cause of A320 ILS to stop working from one day to another....

Note: this is a good example for user claiming about disfunction and bugs, where in fact the problems are external ones.

Could you please explain why you think the problem is in this plugin? I can not think of a single reason for this. The plugin does not change any dataref and does not interfere in the work of other plugins.
And why did no one write to me about this?

Indeed, I would love to hear what conclusion this is based on, becasue I have never had any problem with Terrain Radar plugin in any aircraft. And I have at least 90% of every aircraft for X-Plane.

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JAR wrote:

http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/22/t/p1bckck0mj1qcgg3n1ge4vd26er3.png

HOW TO INSTALL:

Please not mix files with other version.
Download link: http://jardesign.org/a320/download/inst … 20XP11.zip
  - be sure, that you use X-Plane 11.00-11.01
  - ......

I get some trouble with A320jardesign.
I try a lot of situation but, nothing worked. Each time I launch X-plane with A320, it freeze.
Every other planes work good.
My question : when you say "Be sure that you use X-Plane 11.00-11.01, do you mean 11.00 and 11.01, and 11.02 and later one...... or "just 11.01"

I have X-Plane 11.05r2. Could it be the reason why nothing work at all?

best regards
Dominique

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domavion wrote:
JAR wrote:

http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/22/t/p1bckck0mj1qcgg3n1ge4vd26er3.png

HOW TO INSTALL:

Please not mix files with other version.
Download link: http://jardesign.org/a320/download/inst … 20XP11.zip
  - be sure, that you use X-Plane 11.00-11.01
  - ......

I get some trouble with A320jardesign.
I try a lot of situation but, nothing worked. Each time I launch X-plane with A320, it freeze.
Every other planes work good.
My question : when you say "Be sure that you use X-Plane 11.00-11.01, do you mean 11.00 and 11.01, and 11.02 and later one...... or "just 11.01"

I have X-Plane 11.05r2. Could it be the reason why nothing work at all?

best regards
Dominique

Hi
Could you add the log.txt, please ?

jcdp

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MrGeeBee wrote:
DrGluck wrote:
ilankrt wrote:

Hallo JAR at last the expected step forward. Thanks !!  I am going today to make a test flight.

Warning for JAR aircraft user: Do not instal the offered "Terrain Radar". It might be nice for other aircraft models, but it cause heavy errors to JAR models. Deleting this plugin from plugin folder is not the end of the story because more files (.init) are left in X-Plane folder. I was working hard to find out that this was the cause of A320 ILS to stop working from one day to another....

Note: this is a good example for user claiming about disfunction and bugs, where in fact the problems are external ones.

Could you please explain why you think the problem is in this plugin? I can not think of a single reason for this. The plugin does not change any dataref and does not interfere in the work of other plugins.
And why did no one write to me about this?

Indeed it has nothing to do with data ref, the CTD I experienced occurs as ILS on approach was activated. In fact it was a X-Plane crash. To my surprise after downloading  "Terrain Radar" for new (maybe a newer version) and installing the plugin I opened X-Plane with JAR A320 and X-Life and it from now on it works....   It works also well with the A330 on ND screen !

Indeed, I would love to hear what conclusion this is based on, becasue I have never had any problem with Terrain Radar plugin in any aircraft. And I have at least 90% of every aircraft for X-Plane.

X-Plane 11.10r3 | iMac27 OSX High Sierra 10.13.1,  4 GHz Intel Core i7 32 GB memory AMD radeon R9 M395X 4096 MB | Saitek equipment | Plugins: GndHandling , RWC , SMP , SoundM, X-Life , TerrainRadar, BetterPushback, AutoGate  |   iPad 12.9, iPad Air 9.7  | Airliner: JAR A320neo/A330, FF A350XWB, FF B767, SSG B747-8 inter, http://ilankrt1.blogspot.co.il

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Downloaded the latest XP11 update over the weekend. On a route from EGLL to EIDW with the JAR A320, I kept getting overspeed warnings and the FMS would not follow the waypoints. Prior to the update had no issues with the JAR A320. Is it related to the latest update?

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tbriscoe76 wrote:

Downloaded the latest XP11 update over the weekend. On a route from EGLL to EIDW with the JAR A320, I kept getting overspeed warnings and the FMS would not follow the waypoints. Prior to the update had no issues with the JAR A320. Is it related to the latest update?


Most likely. I recommend not using the A320 with XP beta versions!

iMac Retina 5K 27” (2015), Core i7 4GHz, OSX 10.13.2, 32GB RAM, AMD Radeon R9 M395X 4096MB, Saitek X52,  Saitek TPM, Radio, Switch & Multi Panel, ThrustMaster Cougar MFD,  XP 11.10, A320v3.2r1, A330v2.2rc1, XL v2.1b4, FM v2.6r1, GndHdg v200317, SMP4.5, RWCv1.1, FlyWithLua v2.6.5, 3jFPS-wizard, PythonInterface v2.73.06, NOAA Weather v2.4.1, XSaitekpanels v2.70, Xchecklist v1.28

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Enough to complain. Time to enjoy flight

https://youtu.be/FLl72f4klMM

X-Plane 11.10r3 | iMac27 OSX High Sierra 10.13.1,  4 GHz Intel Core i7 32 GB memory AMD radeon R9 M395X 4096 MB | Saitek equipment | Plugins: GndHandling , RWC , SMP , SoundM, X-Life , TerrainRadar, BetterPushback, AutoGate  |   iPad 12.9, iPad Air 9.7  | Airliner: JAR A320neo/A330, FF A350XWB, FF B767, SSG B747-8 inter, http://ilankrt1.blogspot.co.il

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Hi!

This A320 looks great, but unfortunately I found several bugs already in my second flight.
Maybe there’s already an update in the pipe, nevertheless I will give you an overview to see what’s wrong between JD320 V3.2 R1 and a real A320:

- APU can only be started with GPU running. In real A320 you must be able to start the APU on batteries as well, sometimes a GPU is not available.
- Cost index is only accepted between 0 and 99. That’s wrong, up to CI 120 Speed/Mach you get 340 kts/M0.80, thereafter only optimum FL reduces (up to CI 999).
- Alternate airport cannot be inserted on INIT 1 page, so fuel for alternate airport cannot be inserted on INIT 2 page as well.
- Instead of ADF1 – OFF – ILS there should be ADF1 – OFF – VOR1 on the CAPT EFIS control panel.
- VOR2 is completely missing (NO GO!)
- Range 320 (for ND) is not working, cannot be selected (max. is 160 NM)
- EXPD pushbutton on the FCU is not working (only short flash of EXPD pushbutton light but no activation nor FMA change)
- system page pushbuttons on the ECAM Control Panel cannot be deselected; so there’s no change to get the ECAM Cruise Page in flight; pressing a system page pushbutton twice should deselect this system on ECAM
- Flight from EDDM to LOWW is 248 NM flightplan-distance; PROG Page calculates OPT FL 371 -> never ever! (even on ferry flight you are restricted due to altitude constraints on LOWW arrival)
- ENG FLE TEMP NOT SET on ECAM during TOGA T/O -> this message is not existing on real aircraft
- PROG Page does not accept all FL (on flight from EDDM-LOWW) -> just FL310; you can insert any FL on real aircraft as long as it is in accordance with ceiling FL
- PROG Page requests “FL” in front of digits, e.g. FL310; on real aircraft you just have to insert “310”
- “V DEV” on PROG Page is nonsense during climb, real aircraft doesn’t show this
- On the F-PLAN Page waypoints that are already in the past have to be deleted automatically. There should only be the FROM and TO waypoint and the rest of the waypoints to destination (and thereafter to alternate airport)
- both engines always run with same N1, also if one engine is set to idle; thrust lever position is displayed correctly but current N1 is synchronous with other engine
- cabin altitude is displayed with wrong values: FL370 7400ft/7,6PSI -> correct is 7400ft/8,0PSI; FL380 7540ft/7,8PSI -> correct is 7700ft/8,0PSI, FL390 7800ft/8,0PSI -> correct is 8000ft/8,1PSI
- cabin altitude and cabin rate should have an resolution of 50ft instead of 1ft!
- speed tape shows VMO 350kt but this remains unchanged up to FL390; after MACH transition MMO 0.82 must be displayed on speed tape, calculated depending on actual FL
- FCU shows QNH 1016, PFD shows QNH 1015
- MCDU PERF page does not allow value “NO” for DH; NO is used if there’s no DH in case of CAT3B approach
- MCDU PERF page allows DH 20ft but 20ft (and CAT3 DUAL) will be shown on PFD only below 2500ft RA; above 2500ft RA PFD shows DH200ft and CAT1, MCDU PERF page shows DH200ft
- MCDU messages can be deleted with CLR on real aircraft, you do not have to delete every character


Sorry for so many items but these are only those which I realized on my second JAR A320 flight.
Hopefully there will be a huge update, soon.

Best regards!

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Sidestick83 wrote:

Hi!

This A320 looks great, but unfortunately I found several bugs already in my second flight.
Maybe there’s already an update in the pipe, nevertheless I will give you an overview to see what’s wrong between JD320 V3.2 R1 and a real A320:

- APU can only be started with GPU running. In real A320 you must be able to start the APU on batteries as well, sometimes a GPU is not available.
- Cost index is only accepted between 0 and 99. That’s wrong, up to CI 120 Speed/Mach you get 340 kts/M0.80, thereafter only optimum FL reduces (up to CI 999).
- Alternate airport cannot be inserted on INIT 1 page, so fuel for alternate airport cannot be inserted on INIT 2 page as well.
- Instead of ADF1 – OFF – ILS there should be ADF1 – OFF – VOR1 on the CAPT EFIS control panel.
- VOR2 is completely missing (NO GO!)
- Range 320 (for ND) is not working, cannot be selected (max. is 160 NM)
- EXPD pushbutton on the FCU is not working (only short flash of EXPD pushbutton light but no activation nor FMA change)
- system page pushbuttons on the ECAM Control Panel cannot be deselected; so there’s no change to get the ECAM Cruise Page in flight; pressing a system page pushbutton twice should deselect this system on ECAM
- Flight from EDDM to LOWW is 248 NM flightplan-distance; PROG Page calculates OPT FL 371 -> never ever! (even on ferry flight you are restricted due to altitude constraints on LOWW arrival)
- ENG FLE TEMP NOT SET on ECAM during TOGA T/O -> this message is not existing on real aircraft
- PROG Page does not accept all FL (on flight from EDDM-LOWW) -> just FL310; you can insert any FL on real aircraft as long as it is in accordance with ceiling FL
- PROG Page requests “FL” in front of digits, e.g. FL310; on real aircraft you just have to insert “310”
- “V DEV” on PROG Page is nonsense during climb, real aircraft doesn’t show this
- On the F-PLAN Page waypoints that are already in the past have to be deleted automatically. There should only be the FROM and TO waypoint and the rest of the waypoints to destination (and thereafter to alternate airport)
- both engines always run with same N1, also if one engine is set to idle; thrust lever position is displayed correctly but current N1 is synchronous with other engine
- cabin altitude is displayed with wrong values: FL370 7400ft/7,6PSI -> correct is 7400ft/8,0PSI; FL380 7540ft/7,8PSI -> correct is 7700ft/8,0PSI, FL390 7800ft/8,0PSI -> correct is 8000ft/8,1PSI
- cabin altitude and cabin rate should have an resolution of 50ft instead of 1ft!
- speed tape shows VMO 350kt but this remains unchanged up to FL390; after MACH transition MMO 0.82 must be displayed on speed tape, calculated depending on actual FL
- FCU shows QNH 1016, PFD shows QNH 1015
- MCDU PERF page does not allow value “NO” for DH; NO is used if there’s no DH in case of CAT3B approach
- MCDU PERF page allows DH 20ft but 20ft (and CAT3 DUAL) will be shown on PFD only below 2500ft RA; above 2500ft RA PFD shows DH200ft and CAT1, MCDU PERF page shows DH200ft
- MCDU messages can be deleted with CLR on real aircraft, you do not have to delete every character


Sorry for so many items but these are only those which I realized on my second JAR A320 flight.
Hopefully there will be a huge update, soon.

Best regards!

Yeaaaah, I wouldnt waste my time waiting if I were you. With the Flightfactor A320 coming out the jardesign a320 has become more of a relic of the past and I havent seen any updates for quite some time. The only thing that currently jar has and FF hasnt is the sound packs.
Those "bugs" or in some cases just missing features, have been around for over a year and I would be very surprised if a fix is ever released.

Imo the jar aircraft are better suited for users that arent too experienced and just want to "fly" an airplane. Whereas in your case based on your in depth analysis and expectations you would be better suited with FF.

With Flightfactor closing in on the airbus section of aviation Jar is gonna have to drastically up their game if they want to stay in the game or else they will literally be eclipsed.

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I still think JAR should give people who have been loyal to the busses some idea of future plans or projects in the pipeline. They may well have something going on, but at least say something, even just a hint. Just not letting anyone know anything, in fact ignoring what's going on in this forum is not good for keeping customers.
As TheF14me says they will loose out to FF, or perhaps they don't care!

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Bonjour a tous voici mon problème depuis la mise à jour de x plane 11.10
mon A320 3.2r1 et mon A330 de jardesign ne fonctionne plus du tout
Il y a un message qui s'affiche en rouge (voir photos) si quelqu'un aurait une explication ?????????
Merci d'avance

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pierreburnetmerlin wrote:

Bonjour a tous voici mon problème depuis la mise à jour de x plane 11.10
mon A320 3.2r1 et mon A330 de jardesign ne fonctionne plus du tout
Il y a un message qui s'affiche en rouge (voir photos) si quelqu'un aurait une explication ?????????
Merci d'avance

photos ??

Win7x64/Sp1 - i7-6700k@4.2GHz - 32Go ddr3 - LCD : 19"(1280x1024)+32"(1920x1080)+19"(1280x1024)
Geforce GTX 1060 6Go - Saitek Proflight yoke and rudders - XP11.10rc3
A320neoJDv3.2r1 & BSS PW1000 v4.0 sound pack - A330JDv2.2rc1 & BBS Trent700v2.02 sound pack
GHdeluxe FMcar2.6r1  X-Lifedeluxe2.1b3    EFASS NG   XPRealisticPro   xEnviro1.07

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la photo

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la photo ne s'affiche pas
le message (error a320 systems SALS plugin not activated
                  -please check your aircraft installation
                  -please check what your aircraft was activated
                  -if activation window not appear  -   please contact support-jardesign.org)

voila le message???

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pierreburnetmerlin wrote:

la photo ne s'affiche pas
le message (error a320 systems SALS plugin not activated
                  -please check your aircraft installation
                  -please check what your aircraft was activated
                  -if activation window not appear  -   please contact support-jardesign.org)

voila le message???

bjr tu as un pb d'activation de ton avion par rapport à xplane 11.10
si j'ai tout compris cela fonctionnait avant cette mise à jour !!!
pour ma part pas eu ce souci...

je te conseille d'ouvrir un ticket sur le support jardesign en expliquant ton pb
Eugeny est le seul qui puisse t'aider dans ce cas !!

cdlt
henri

Win7x64/Sp1 - i7-6700k@4.2GHz - 32Go ddr3 - LCD : 19"(1280x1024)+32"(1920x1080)+19"(1280x1024)
Geforce GTX 1060 6Go - Saitek Proflight yoke and rudders - XP11.10rc3
A320neoJDv3.2r1 & BSS PW1000 v4.0 sound pack - A330JDv2.2rc1 & BBS Trent700v2.02 sound pack
GHdeluxe FMcar2.6r1  X-Lifedeluxe2.1b3    EFASS NG   XPRealisticPro   xEnviro1.07

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D'accord je vais essayer comme ça
Mais c'est très bizarre il marchait très bien avec x plane 11.05 et plus avec x plane 11.10
merci quand même

cdlt

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colinah wrote:

I still think JAR should give people who have been loyal to the busses some idea of future plans or projects in the pipeline. They may well have something going on, but at least say something, even just a hint. Just not letting anyone know anything, in fact ignoring what's going on in this forum is not good for keeping customers.
As TheF14me says they will loose out to FF, or perhaps they don't care!

My feeling is that Jar knows FF has better product. It looks better, has more complete systems and is just better in every aspect. Seems like they don't even care anymore about their A320 because they can't compete. I personally haven't even touched Jar for a while even I used to fly it almost daily. Lack of communication and real road map if they are going to fix things (I don't think so) just makes me want to get FFA320 into my hands as soon as possible.

It is really shame because Jar has good product. It just requires some work to brought to today standards. But because FFA320 wil beat Jar in every aspect I hope they plan for big update for A330 (which I don't believe either).

I've had many good flights with Jar and I do not regret having it. But seems like Jar A320 won't get any love from developers.

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Евгений, я вас очень сильно прошу очень при очень сильно), сделайте пожалуйста такой же эффект анимацию дождя как ФФ А320, он потрясающий, и не сложный на простом шейдер, и ФПС не кушает. Сейчас на 320JAR эффект капель и стекании ну их очень слабо видно и нет того погружение в атмосферу. (((, Я бы очень хотел увидеть капли как у ФФ На А320 и А330 JAR)))). Я думаю этого все хотят, реально очень красиво смотрится дождь у ФФ А320, Спасибо Вам Евгений за прекрасные самолеты. 

Eugene, I ask you very very very much), please do the same effect animation of rain as FF A320, it is amazing and not complicated for a simple Shader, and FPS does not eat. Now 320JAR eye drops and runoff well, they are very poorly visible and no immersion in the atmosphere. (((I'd really like to see drops like FF On A320 and A330 JAR)))). I think that what everyone wants, really looks very nice in the rain FF A320, Thank You Eugene for a great aircraft.

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como conseguir a licença JD320 Airliner

220 (edited by TKurzweg 2017-12-10 19:07:28)

Re: JD320 Airliner ver 3.2 r1 WIN/MAC 64 bit (X-Plane 11)

Hello JARDESIGN team, I have updated my X-Plane 11.05 to X-Plane 11.10 yesterday. Nothing else is changing, only the update. My JD320 V3 2R1 for XP11 does not work correctly! Frames from 24 down to 10 FPS and sometimes the simulation stops for some seconds. The sim is totally frozen. The panel knobs sometimes not working with my mouse.
With XP 11.05 (not beta version) everything is working fine.
I use JD A320, A330, X-Life and the noaa.weather plugin. Have the JD A330 not testet yet, but I think it have same problems.
Greeting, Thomas

PS: I never update XP 11 to beta versions!!! Only official updates have loaded. First it was XP 11 I have , than come the official update up to XP 11.05 and now the very, very good "final" update to XP 11.10 !!! Thx Laminar, nothing works with my scenerys (free- and payware), my payware aircrafts (JAR A320 neo, JAR A330 and FF A350 and also FF B777). A lot of plugins like noaa.weather not work. Delete the preferences...help nothing, same problems. This time I try to download and install a second copy of XP 11 (have the download-version) and all servers are busy - great! Mery christmas everybody and thanks for this gift!

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Hello JARDESIGN team, I received updated my X-Plane 11.05 to X-Plane 11.10 yesterday. Nothing else is changing, only the update. My JD320 V3 2R1 for XP11 does not work correctly! I don't see any lighted buttons on the upper panel and both ECAMS are blank. As you will see the sample upper panel I've sent.http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/2572/t/p1c0ujvud1gu01qvh1tqvgurrfi3.png

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Hello How do i get a serial number for jardesign a320

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???

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Look at initial post from JAR:

be sure, that you use X-Plane 11.00-11.01

---------

vicente.mesquita.oliveira: Like many other things, go to a store like x-plane.org and purchase it

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Hello JARDESIGN same probleme with X-Plane 11.10 A320, Frames from 24 down to 10 FPS and sometimes the simulation stops for some seconds.
CDT Philippe