1 Topic by MasterTRL (edited by MasterTRL 2016-05-19 10:25:51)

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Topic: [SOLVED]No straight line from HP to runway / Turn before takeoff

Hi Guys,

i´m working on routs for LESB at the moment. I have the general layout down and it works so far except for two things.

Please have a look at these two bictures of either end of the runway:

http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/2594/t/p1aj2m6tlq1qcr1ofe1gef2r5dr83.png

On rwy 06 the runway extends a good portion farther out from the taxyway. Obviously i´m trying to set the whole thing up so that the aircraft would taxy out over the numbers, then turn and come back and then take off. I have tried several tricks with the route layout but the planes just turn left at the entrance and take off directly.


http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/2594/t/p1aj2m73l7179p177m5e0v41pgt6.png

Here we have the situation that the entry for rwy 24 doesn´t lead onto the actual runway. The aircraft will go around that bend towards the numbers and take off after that. Obviously i want to emulate just that. As i have learned though, i can´t have an additional taxy way node between the holding point and the runway because that node would be the holding point then which would be wrong. Also i can´t just extend the runway rout out to that point because X-Life would not recognize it as runway any more and the plane will take off from the taxyway C2 paralel to the runway (yes, i have tried this).

[SOLUTION] Thanks to vatech for helping me out. Please look at the pictures he has posted below to see how he solved the two problems. I also uploaded the finished files incl. no static in a separate thread with this solution already applied.

So you see where i got stuck with the LESB runway there. It would be so cool if any of you veterans could have a look and tell me what i can do. Or even if it is not possible at all so that i can finaly find peace ;-)

I atached the .dat and .txt in case someone wants to try something. The airport itself is part of this scenery:

http://www.helgo11335.de/  (Mallorca 9.1)

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2 Reply by vatech (edited by vatech 2016-05-19 07:29:55)

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Re: [SOLVED]No straight line from HP to runway / Turn before takeoff

MasterTRL wrote:

Hi Guys,

i´m working on routs for LESB at the moment. I have the general layout down and it works so far except for two things.

Please have a look at these two bictures of either end of the runway:

http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/2594/t/p1aj2m6tlq1qcr1ofe1gef2r5dr83.png

On rwy 06 the runway extends a good portion farther out from the taxyway. Obviously i´m trying to set the whole thing up so that the aircraft would taxy out over the numbers, then turn and come back and then take off. I have tried several tricks with the route layout but the planes just turn left at the entrance and take off directly.

To work properly you RWY 06 must looks like this
http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/2234/t/p1aj3ulsus1nvauav3qtso1ebu3.jpg
I edit this a little.

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Re: [SOLVED]No straight line from HP to runway / Turn before takeoff

Hi vatech,

thank you very much for your effort. I tested your file immediately but i have to tell you that departing planes still turn left as soon as they enter the runway instead of first turning right and then doing a turn at the very end of the runway.

Could this have something to do with the size of the plane though? Like how a small plane does not need the whole runway and X-Life recognizes this?

Cheers

Chris

4 Reply by vatech (edited by vatech 2016-05-19 08:37:56)

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Re: [SOLVED]No straight line from HP to runway / Turn before takeoff

MasterTRL wrote:

Hi vatech,

thank you very much for your effort. I tested your file immediately but i have to tell you that departing planes still turn left as soon as they enter the runway instead of first turning right and then doing a turn at the very end of the runway.

Could this have something to do with the size of the plane though? Like how a small plane does not need the whole runway and X-Life recognizes this?

Cheers

Chris

This is the 'shift takeof' small planes can take off from the center of the runway if lengh is anouth for that. X-life determines by itself the lengh for shift takeoff for each type of plane.

And one more mistake I found and edit.
http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/2234/t/p1aj42j5q64o81k3j1jojmbb10jc3.jpg

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Re: [SOLVED]No straight line from HP to runway / Turn before takeoff

vatech wrote:

This is the 'shift takeof'

Ok, i see. Wasn´t aware that X-Life takes that into account.


vatech wrote:

And one more mistake I found and edit.
http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/2234/t/p1aj42j5q64o81k3j1jojmbb10jc3.jpg

Ah i see what you did there. I had it like this first but then the planes wouldn´t take off from the runway at all. But unlike you, i extended the runway in a single line to the entrance. I see that you put an additional node on the actual start of the runway, which seems to do the trick.

Thank you very much for your help! I will create the no static mod now and then i will publish the files in a new thred.

Cheers

Chris