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Re: X-Life public beta-6, 7, 8, 9 (Win & Mac)

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Good day,
the X-Life latest version on my Mac will not run so this is what we have been looking for to De-bug the issue I just hope it can be re-produced.
data to follow...


the aircraft was on the taxi and then the CTD the last CTD was on the same Flight Pattern and was just two min in the air when the CTD happened.
the next step is to see if they happens on another route as I think this is a route issue and not an X-Life issue.
the route is the control route EHAM/EDDH ; EDDH/EHAM  and I do not think it will work so a new rout is needed that will not cause a CTD.


Note#1 Yes this is a Route based CTD and not a X-Life CTD the next flight EGLL/EHAM is working so far will keep posted on any issues but no CTD at first so is EHAM or EDDH scenery pack causing issue when you use as departing airport.
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Re: X-Life public beta-6, 7, 8, 9 (Win & Mac)

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captbullett wrote:

Good day,
the X-Life latest version on my Mac will not run so this is what we have been looking for to De-bug the issue I just hope it can be re-produced.
data to follow...


the aircraft was on the taxi and then the CTD the last CTD was on the same Flight Pattern and was just two min in the air when the CTD happened.
the next step is to see if they happens on another route as I think this is a route issue and not an X-Life issue.
the route is the control route EHAM/EDDH ; EDDH/EHAM  and I do not think it will work so a new rout is needed that will not cause a CTD.


Note#1 Yes this is a Route based CTD and not a X-Life CTD the next flight EGLL/EHAM is working so far will keep posted on any issues but no CTD at first so is EHAM or EDDH scenery pack causing issue when you use as departing airport.
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Thanks! Apple crashreport + log.txt = useful a lot!

Good day,
Most welcome I also have the EGLL/EHAM flight right after this flight to compare since, I think this is more than X-Life no.
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Note#1

This route was good until I was close to the runway under 600 feet I do believe and i was told to go-around I did not see any traffic nor, did I get a warning.

2) I had an issue with the view locking into an abnormal view so I could not see what I was trying to do.

3) I had a conflict and was told to land after all I do believe the log will have to be gone through line by line.

4) Because of the issues I did not do the go-around but landed and closed the XP app and now sending the data.

5) I need to test some more as I also just up-dated the Nav-data to cycle 1603.

6) I think this covers everything so just incase I missed something anyone can point to the issue and  Post the data.

thank-you for your help JAR and the rest of the Beta testers.
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Re: X-Life public beta-6, 7, 8, 9 (Win & Mac)

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Dewald wrote:

I don't have the Airbuses.
The following aircraft worked perfectly.
Rotate MD80 (latest update)
FJS Q400
I have quite a few other aircraft (all pay ware) that I intend to try out.
PS! I had only 2 problems so far, both of which was resolved.
1) Real time anti virus prevented X-Life to write to hard drive.
2) No TOD call (Latest Beta addressed it).

Perhaps we can Start a thread of its own where we post successful flights so others can see what works.
1) Aircraft used
2) Route + Airac cycle
3) Airports used
This method can set benchmarks, and problems might be easier to identify.

Thats a good idea, post successful flights and see what works. For grins and giggles, I'll post my last flight.
Excellent flight, Only 2 problems.
1. I first loaded the JAR A320, started everything and entered my flight plan. (LFMN-LIRF) When I wanted to port it over to the FMS, nothing happened. I repeated this and still no flight plan loaded...so, I loaded up the JAR A330 and all worked great..fms loaded, atc, tod, until I got to my final..
2. When I got clearance to land, after reporting my ILS capture I was of course lined up and at 1,00ft agl I took over from the AP..touchdown and rollout..then ATC informed me to do a go-around as I was decelerating to about 70...I ignored and then just went to a terminal.

So, the only MAJOR problem was why it wasn't loading the flight plan into the A320 fms, the A330 problem is fairly minor. 
I attached my files (inc the bbc box files...attachment 1 the 320, 2 is the 330, 3 is the log)
FlightPlan: LFMN SID SODRI A3 NORKA A3 SUDAS UL127 CAPCO A3 MIRSA L127 ELB M729 GILIO STAR LIRF
AIRAC cycle is 1602 (changing to 1603 this weekend)


Good day,
Great work this is the type of Beta report we need and this is how I send an Apple Beta report very complete and full of detail.
So, if JAR wants to put the data for the other aircraft on a new pined topic I think is good. i am a very open minded person since i do not know everything and the best Ideals come from the people one works with.

2) we also need good and bad log.txt while we are running the CTD logging txt this give JAR an example of the good and bad since this CTD is not easy to track and I have not been able to find it either.

#3 I want to thank-you again so much for your work please do not give up its not easy but this is part of Beta testing the paperwork is part of the work.

Your Friend,
Brian

Thanks CaptBullet, looking forward to this project being 99.99% purfecto! (Ain't nuttin purfect lol) I must admit, this is cutting edge for x-plane. Mr Jar is a genius, love all his work. Now, back to flying! oh, btw, noticed a typo in my report...should've been 1000ft agl, not 100

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Re: X-Life public beta-6, 7, 8, 9 (Win & Mac)

Hotfix 3 for beta 8. Just try to abort aircraft(s) what may have unuseful route

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Re: X-Life public beta-6, 7, 8, 9 (Win & Mac)

Successful flight from EHAM to EGLL. All aspects of the ATC worked fine, no CTD. Not much traffic at EHAM even though I had set it to maximum but there was lots at EGLL.

One issue - I was given STAR BIG3E by ATC. When I added this the FMS the resulting route made no sense and took me on a strange loop. I had to fly the approach manually looking at the real world chart.

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Re: X-Life public beta-6, 7, 8, 9 (Win & Mac)

Here's a good one with the new hot fix 3. Log attached (no bbc log since I did not fly jar this time)
This time instead of the JARa320/330, I took the MD88 out.

Great flight, no problems...worked seamlessly and smoothly
LIRF/LICC

Some recommendations:
1. Ability to copy and paste from the flight plan widget
2. Ability to use the tab key
3. ability to move the atc window

Copy and paste comes in handy for those fmc's that are not compatible. (md80 and sometimes the jar a320) What I do now is hand type the entire flight plan (from the widget) into a notepad doc and put it into the planes saved route file. I've also typed directly into the fmc the entire route.  All works like a charm, Lucky Charms smile

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Re: X-Life public beta-6, 7, 8, 9 (Win & Mac)

Good day,
Ok on the BIG3E do add but not as transition just first part of plan but not transition no on the other part of the FP I can't remember what it is called right now. so you will add at the beginning but not the next two parts when setting up the MCDU.
this is hard for me to explain so this is one post that might not be clear.
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ahstewart40 wrote:

Successful flight from EHAM to EGLL. All aspects of the ATC worked fine, no CTD. Not much traffic at EHAM even though I had set it to maximum but there was lots at EGLL.

One issue - I was given STAR BIG3E by ATC. When I added this the FMS the resulting route made no sense and took me on a strange loop. I had to fly the approach manually looking at the real world chart.

Files attached for info if it's helpful to find CTDs for others.

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Re: X-Life public beta-6, 7, 8, 9 (Win & Mac)

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Here's a good one with the new hot fix 3. Log attached (no bbc log since I did not fly jar this time)
This time instead of the JARa320/330, I took the MD88 out.

Great flight, no problems...worked seamlessly and smoothly
LIRF/LICC

Some recommendations:
1. Ability to copy and paste from the flight plan widget
2. Ability to use the tab key
3. ability to move the atc window

Copy and paste comes in handy for those fmc's that are not compatible. (md80 and sometimes the jar a320) What I do now is hand type the entire flight plan (from the widget) into a notepad doc and put it into the planes saved route file. I've also typed directly into the fmc the entire route.  All works like a charm, Lucky Charms smile

Thanks again Mr. J and CaptBullet


Good day,

Glad to here it working well keep the data coming good and bad so we can make it and make it better.
Brian

359 Reply by thomas_99 (edited by thomas_99 2016-03-05 17:24:07)

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Re: X-Life public beta-6, 7, 8, 9 (Win & Mac)

Hi !

is it possible that with hotfix 3 planes vanish ?

I've got: Gates: 8 Busy: 2 -> Plane is landing, rolling to Gate, parking, some seconds later -> plane vanished,
Gates:8 Busy 1. Than after a while Busy: 2 -> Plane landing, rolling, parking, some seconds later plane vanished, Busy: 1.

CTD debug point Main 1273 = 9
CTD debug point Main 1273 = 9
CTD debug point classAircraft 888 = 5
CTD debug point Main 1267 = 5
JARDesign plugin: D:\Spiele\X-Plane 10\Resources\plugins\X-Life\Metar/EDNY.TXT file updated.
CTD debug point classAircraft 904 = 5
CTD debug point Main 1247 = 19
CTD debug point Main 1622 = 5
X-Life abort aircraft drawing from Phase = Abort, Acf = 5
CTD debug point classAircraft 904 = 5
CTD debug point classAircraft 827 = 9
CTD debug point classAircraft 904 = 9
CTD debug point classAircraft 904 = 19
CTD debug point classAircraft 1438 = 9
CTD debug point Main 1357 = 5
CTD debug point Main 1273 = 19
CTD debug point Main 1273 = 19

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CTD debug point Main 1273 = 19
CTD debug point Main 1273 = 19
CTD debug point Main 1273 = 19
CTD debug point classAircraft 888 = 9
CTD debug point Main 1267 = 9
CTD debug point classAircraft 904 = 9
CTD debug point Main 1622 = 9
X-Life abort aircraft drawing from Phase = Abort, Acf = 9
CTD debug point classAircraft 904 = 9

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Re: X-Life public beta-6, 7, 8, 9 (Win & Mac)

Hotfix 3.  Trying to create flight plan from EIDW to EGLL.  Get CTD when I try to generate.  Tried twice with the same result.

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Re: X-Life public beta-6, 7, 8, 9 (Win & Mac)

Good day,
This was taxi to runway noticed smoke coming from tires trying to remember which key was to stop smoke but clicked Key==V== and CTD===
Here is Data.

All the X-Life components worked up until the click of the key "V" and CTD happened id this a mapped shut-down for a XP plug-in. as of now I do not think so.
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Re: X-Life public beta-6, 7, 8, 9 (Win & Mac)

Successful flight (fairly)
FF 757-200 Professional
Aerosoft EGLL to Aerosoft EDDL
EGLL SID DET L6 DVR KONAN UL607 KOK DIRECT NIK L179 DIBIR 1282 LMA STAR EDDL (Routefinder)
X-Life SID from ATC --- Perfect
X-Life STAR from ATC --- Perfect
I completely botched the approach because I don't know this aircraft all that well yet.
X-life hot fix 2 xpl
ATC worked perfectly, but I did not call when on localizer.
ATC told me to go around when already on runway, but no fault of X-Life I assume.

363 Reply by Sloboda (edited by Sloboda 2016-03-05 18:25:05)

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Re: X-Life public beta-6, 7, 8, 9 (Win & Mac)

Hello,
why we can't make a flight plan when the airport is not validate ???

I have make the LFPO (Paris Orly) Taxi Routes but i can't make flight since this airport 'cause this problem.
x-Life always say alternate airport is not valide. Like if i make a custom flight plan.

I think that's can degrade the enjoy for X-Life, it's too bad so it's very very good and interesting for every X-Planers. This problem create too much limits of X-Life.

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Hello,

after todays update I have no more traffic. The gates and stands are busy. But no aircraft traffic on the ground and no traffic in the air.

Flight from LIRF to EDDM. ATC works fine on the flight.

Regards,
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Good day,
you must re-set some settings and if you send log.txt it make telling you what is going on easer
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Hello,

after todays update I have no more traffic. The gates and stands are busy. But no aircraft traffic on the ground and no traffic in the air.

Flight from LIRF to EDDM. ATC works fine on the flight.

Regards,
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Good day,
you must re-set some settings and if you send log.txt it make telling you what is going on easer
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lamike wrote:

Hello,

after todays update I have no more traffic. The gates and stands are busy. But no aircraft traffic on the ground and no traffic in the air.

Flight from LIRF to EDDM. ATC works fine on the flight.

Regards,
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I'm not sure if the file helps.

I have tested the settings. The problem occurs when you turn the gate busy settings on fully.
But even at a low level.

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Good day,
New member there are thing that need to be done and we need log.txt and bbox.txt if you are using JAR aircraft this is not up for debate so we can tract CTD that is very hard to find and i do not like to post two time on same issue!
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captbullett wrote:

Good day,
you must re-set some settings and if you send log.txt it make telling you what is going on easer
captbullett

lamike wrote:

Hello,

after todays update I have no more traffic. The gates and stands are busy. But no aircraft traffic on the ground and no traffic in the air.

Flight from LIRF to EDDM. ATC works fine on the flight.

Regards,
Michael

I'm not sure if the file helps.

I have tested the settings. The problem occurs when you turn the gate busy settings on fully.
But even at a low level.

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Good day,
New member there are thing that need to be done and we need log.txt and bbox.txt if you are using JAR aircraft this is not up for debate so we can tract CTD that is very hard to find and i do not like to post two time on same issue!
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captbullett wrote:

Good day,
you must re-set some settings and if you send log.txt it make telling you what is going on easer
captbullett

I'm not sure if the file helps.

I have tested the settings. The problem occurs when you turn the gate busy settings on fully.
But even at a low level.

Sorry. I forgot to push the add file button in the last post.

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Just attempted to use hot fix 3.

LOWI-LOWS.

Many AI aircraft are starting in the same position. Filed my flight plan ok but was told by ATC to hold short at runway prior to take off (waiting for aircraft that were about to land). Ended up waiting for more than 30 minutes and then the two aircraft that were supposed to land ended up going around.

Sick of waiting I just took off without permission. My flight plan was approved at 9000 feet but ATC told me to go to 13000. Also, I was unable to enter any NDBs into my flight plan.

Log attached.

BTW your puzzle key capture is really annoying and making it take too long to post.

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Good day,
Here is Hot Fix 3 with good route all data in the log.txt and bbox.txt this was good flying and good population, some aircraft not in the right route or pattern but this is an ongoing thing that is a work in progress that is X-Life. So, JAR will be improving most likely down the road the air-traffic taxi flow is a need to work on issue and this is a airport by airport project in WED is is not i do not know the answer to this issue.

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lamike wrote:
captbullett wrote:

Good day,
New member there are thing that need to be done and we need log.txt and bbox.txt if you are using JAR aircraft this is not up for debate so we can tract CTD that is very hard to find and i do not like to post two time on same issue!
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I'm not sure if the file helps.

I have tested the settings. The problem occurs when you turn the gate busy settings on fully.
But even at a low level.

Sorry. I forgot to push the add file button in the last post.

Good day,
thank-you so, much this is a hard CTD to catch and with all of us working together we will get to the goal of finding the issue so again thank-you so, much for your help,
Brian

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Re: X-Life public beta-6, 7, 8, 9 (Win & Mac)

Hi !

I've got a plane in the middle of the runway which is blocked waiting for another plane landing on the same runway :-)

Airport EDDL, did nothing, just watching :-)

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373 Reply by Sloboda (edited by Sloboda 2016-03-06 09:23:53)

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Re: X-Life public beta-6, 7, 8, 9 (Win & Mac)

thomas_99 wrote:

Hi !

I've got a plane in the middle of the runway which is blocked waiting for another plane landing on the same runway :-)

Airport EDDL, did nothing, just watching :-)

Hello, i have the same problem on taxis. Some planes stop on the middle of taxi et another catch up the first and go there...

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374 Reply by ThommiTechnik (edited by ThommiTechnik 2016-03-06 10:01:54)

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Re: X-Life public beta-6, 7, 8, 9 (Win & Mac)

Some questions:

• after departure from LSZH or LEPA, I was handed over from delivery to ground to tower. So far, so good. And then approach? And where's the handover to center?
• where can I ask for next altitude clearance? Step level!?
• night-arriving at LSZH from LEPA, with 777-300ER, the People's Plane from SWR. Aeehhmmmmm, Ramzzess, I hope you have a good insurance wink On 50ft from touch-down an Air Berlin plane was coming onto RW16.... you can imagine, what happened? wink

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ThommiTechnik wrote:

Some questions:

• after departure from LSZH or LEPA, I was handed over from delivery to ground to tower. So far, so good. And then approach? And where's the handover to center?
• where can I ask for next altitude clearance? Step level!?
• night-arriving at LSZH from LEPA, with 777-300ER, the People's Plane from SWR. Aeehhmmmmm, Ramzzess, I hope you have a good insurance wink On 50ft from touch-down an Air Berlin plane was coming onto RW16.... you can imagine, what happened? wink

I was going to ask exactly these same questions myself...