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Re: X-Life ver 1.3

k922365 wrote:

http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/1346/t/p1bi3r7mde16khsen1f1m1k0ofj03.jpg
XL: 0 : MessageGreen: Loading... please wait!
XL: 0 : Bluebell XL library find: E:\X-Plane 11\/Custom Data/Bluebell XL/
XL: 0 : X-Life Airac Cycle:  1706
XL: 0 : X-Life Airac Provider: N
XL: 0 : X-Life Airac Data:  25/MAY/2017 - 21/JUN/2017
XL: 0 : MessageGreen: X-Life NavData:  1706 ( 25/MAY/2017 - 21/JUN/2017) from E:\X-Plane 11\/Custom Data/GNS430/navdata/
XL: 0 : X-Life NavDataPath =E:\X-Plane 11\/Custom Data/GNS430/navdata/
XL: 0 : X-Life NavDataProcPath =E:\X-Plane 11\/Custom Data/GNS430/navdata/Proc/
XL: 7 : JARDesign plugin: E:\X-Plane 11\Resources\plugins\X-Life\Metar/RJBB.TXT file updated.

http://simliveries.com/index.php/2017/0 … ort-japan/


So.. what happen wrong?

Please read a FAQ before you post a bug http://support.jardesign.org

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Re: X-Life ver 1.3

Having issues with Transatlantic input.

EDDT - KJFK

For JarDesign A330
EDDT SID BKD UL619 SUTEB L619 VALBO UL619 CUTEL L983 GOW DCT TUXOS DCT PIKIL NATA 52N050W NATA TUDEP N398A TOPPS DCT ENE STAR KJFK

Works fine!

Tried it in X-Life, segment error.

Ok, so I changed the Long/Lat to short verions:

EDDT SID BKD UL619 SUTEB L619 VALBO UL619 CUTEL L983 GOW DCT TUXOS DCT PIKIL NATA 5250N NATA TUDEP N398A TOPPS DCT ENE STAR KJFK

Still error...

Ok, removing NATA, still error.

XL: 1705 : MessageRed: Flight Plan error: 52N050W NATA TUDEP Segment Error
XL: 1705 : MessageRed: Please check what installed NavData cycle is the same for:
XL: 1705 : MessageRed: - X-Live Plugin
XL: 1705 : MessageRed: - Aircraft FMS
XL: 1705 : MessageRed: - Flight Planner
XL: 1705 : Flightplan sended to ATC: EDDT SID BKD UL619 SUTEB L619 VALBO UL619 CUTEL L983 GOW TUXOS PIKIL NATA 52N050W NATA TUDEP N398A TOPPS ENE STAR KJFK
XL: 1773 : MessageRed: Flight Plan error: PIKIL 5250N TUDEP Segment Error
XL: 1773 : MessageRed: Please check what installed NavData cycle is the same for:
XL: 1773 : MessageRed: - X-Live Plugin
XL: 1773 : MessageRed: - Aircraft FMS
XL: 1773 : MessageRed: - Flight Planner
XL: 1773 : Flightplan sended to ATC: EDDT SID BKD UL619 SUTEB L619 VALBO UL619 CUTEL L983 GOW TUXOS PIKIL 5250N TUDEP N398A TOPPS ENE STAR KJFK
XL: 1820 : MessageRed: Flight Plan error: PIKIL 5250N TUDEP Segment Error
XL: 1820 : MessageRed: Please check what installed NavData cycle is the same for:
XL: 1820 : MessageRed: - X-Live Plugin
XL: 1820 : MessageRed: - Aircraft FMS
XL: 1820 : MessageRed: - Flight Planner
XL: 1820 : Flightplan sended to ATC: EDDT SID BKD UL619 SUTEB L619 VALBO UL619 CUTEL L983 GOW TUXOS PIKIL 5250N TUDEP N398A TOPPS ENE STAR KJFK
XL: 1908 : MessageRed: Flight Plan error: N398A TOPPS ENE Segment Error
XL: 1908 : MessageRed: Please check what installed NavData cycle is the same for:
XL: 1908 : MessageRed: - X-Live Plugin
XL: 1908 : MessageRed: - Aircraft FMS
XL: 1908 : MessageRed: - Flight Planner
XL: 1908 : Flightplan sended to ATC: EDDT SID BKD UL619 SUTEB L619 VALBO UL619 CUTEL L983 GOW TUXOS PIKIL TUDEP N398A TOPPS ENE STAR KJFK
XL: 1927 : MessageRed: Flight Plan error: PIKIL TUDEP TOPPS Segment Error
XL: 1927 : MessageRed: Please check what installed NavData cycle is the same for:
XL: 1927 : MessageRed: - X-Live Plugin
XL: 1927 : MessageRed: - Aircraft FMS
XL: 1927 : MessageRed: - Flight Planner
XL: 1927 : Flightplan sended to ATC: EDDT SID BKD UL619 SUTEB L619 VALBO UL619 CUTEL L983 GOW TUXOS PIKIL TUDEP TOPPS ENE STAR KJFK
XL: 1943 : MessageRed: Flight Plan error: PIKIL TUDEP TOPPS Segment Error
XL: 1943 : MessageRed: Please check what installed NavData cycle is the same for:
XL: 1943 : MessageRed: - X-Live Plugin
XL: 1943 : MessageRed: - Aircraft FMS
XL: 1943 : MessageRed: - Flight Planner
XL: 1943 : Flightplan sended to ATC: EDDT SID BKD UL619 SUTEB L619 VALBO UL619 CUTEL L983 GOW TUXOS PIKIL TUDEP TOPPS ENE STAR KJFK
XL: 2003 : MessageRed: Flight Plan error: N398A TOPPS ENE Segment Error
XL: 2003 : MessageRed: Please check what installed NavData cycle is the same for:
XL: 2003 : MessageRed: - X-Live Plugin
XL: 2003 : MessageRed: - Aircraft FMS
XL: 2003 : MessageRed: - Flight Planner

Latest AIRAC is active:

XL: 0 : MessageGreen: Loading... please wait!
XL: 0 : Bluebell XL library find: E:\X-Plane 11\/Custom Data/Bluebell XL/
XL: 0 : X-Life Airac Cycle:  1706
XL: 0 : X-Life Airac Provider: N
XL: 0 : X-Life Airac Data:  25/MAY/2017 - 21/JUN/2017
XL: 0 : MessageGreen: X-Life NavData:  1706 ( 25/MAY/2017 - 21/JUN/2017) from E:\X-Plane 11\/Custom Data/GNS430/navdata/
XL: 0 : X-Life NavDataPath =E:\X-Plane 11\/Custom Data/GNS430/navdata/
XL: 0 : X-Life NavDataProcPath =E:\X-Plane 11\/Custom Data/GNS430/navdata/Proc/

There seems to be impossible to get X-Life to understand that I want to go over the big pond called North Atlantic Ocean. And trying to go DCT from TUXOS to TUDEP, just gives segment error.

Any ideas? Sure I can still fly the route since the A330 will fly it, but without X-Life and ATC. Oh the X-Plane ATC takes it thouh, but it's rather crappy on everything else.

28 (edited by Devirex 2017-06-12 10:18:30)

Re: X-Life ver 1.3

Had a flight from EDDS to EDDF.

EDDS ETAS2H ETASA T163 PSA STAR EDDF

Had a small issue:
ATC gave me STAR PSA07S for landing on Runway 25C.
PSA07S is only possible for Runways 07L/R/C. 
Valid STAR for 25C was PSA25S.

So it seems that there is no checking if some STAR is in relation to a runway.

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Re: X-Life ver 1.3

J.A.Romanov wrote:
k922365 wrote:

http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/1346/t/p1bi3r7mde16khsen1f1m1k0ofj03.jpg
XL: 0 : MessageGreen: Loading... please wait!
XL: 0 : Bluebell XL library find: E:\X-Plane 11\/Custom Data/Bluebell XL/
XL: 0 : X-Life Airac Cycle:  1706
XL: 0 : X-Life Airac Provider: N
XL: 0 : X-Life Airac Data:  25/MAY/2017 - 21/JUN/2017
XL: 0 : MessageGreen: X-Life NavData:  1706 ( 25/MAY/2017 - 21/JUN/2017) from E:\X-Plane 11\/Custom Data/GNS430/navdata/
XL: 0 : X-Life NavDataPath =E:\X-Plane 11\/Custom Data/GNS430/navdata/
XL: 0 : X-Life NavDataProcPath =E:\X-Plane 11\/Custom Data/GNS430/navdata/Proc/
XL: 7 : JARDesign plugin: E:\X-Plane 11\Resources\plugins\X-Life\Metar/RJBB.TXT file updated.

http://simliveries.com/index.php/2017/0 … ort-japan/


So.. what happen wrong?

Unable to use RJBB can not be used before revision

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Re: X-Life ver 1.3

Devirex wrote:

Had a flight from EDDS to EDDF.

EDDS ETAS2H ETASA T163 PSA STAR EDDF

Had a small issue:
ATC gave me STAR PSA07S for landing on Runway 25C.
PSA07S is only possible for Runways 07L/R/C. 
Valid STAR for 25C was PSA25S.

So it seems that there is no checking if some STAR is in relation to a runway.

I had a similar problem with my flight to KSFO. X-life suggested 19L but that didn´t fit the STAR. Wasn´t much of an issue, because you can change the runway, but it would be nice if X-Life could detect the right STAR to fit the active runway automatically.

31 (edited by Aquilam 2017-06-18 00:30:04)

Re: X-Life ver 1.3

I am trying to get started with X-Life for XP11 for the first time using the X-Life ver 1.3 freeware package. As a first step I am trying to set up KORD by Nimbus Simulation per the instructions here:

http://jardesign.org/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=10777

QUESTION: Where do I put the download files +41-088.dsf, KORD.dat and KORD.txt?

Thank you.

32 (edited by MrGeeBee 2017-06-18 14:04:28)

Re: X-Life ver 1.3

Aquilam wrote:

I am trying to get started with X-Life for XP11 for the first time using the X-Life ver 1.3 freeware package. As a first step I am trying to set up KORD by Nimbus Simulation per the instructions here:

http://jardesign.org/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=10777

QUESTION: Where do I put the download files +41-088.dsf, KORD.dat and KORD.txt?

Thank you.

The .dat and .txt files goes into X-Plane 11\Resources\plugins\X-Life\Airports folder.

The "KORD - Chicago O'Hare Intl HD Nostatic" folder should go into your Custom Scenery directory. Also edit your scenery .ini file to move KORD - Chicago O'Hare Intl HD Nostatic above KORD - Chicago O'Hare Intl HD. Or use X-Organizer if you are on Windows http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/fi … r-windows/ to easier manage it. Highly recommended tool.

33

Re: X-Life ver 1.3

Using x-life free and working fine. Until copied BlueBell files to "X-Plane 11\/Custom Data/Bluebell XL/". And now, x-plane crashes after try to turn traffic on. And, this is strange, when try to use Tools menu items, get something like "Need to have Bluebell XL installed"... but it is installed. The log says "Bluebell XL library find: E:\X-Plane 11\/Custom Data/Bluebell XL/". Removing BluBell directory and everything works fine again.

34

Re: X-Life ver 1.3

MrGeeBee wrote:

The .dat and .txt files goes into X-Plane 11\Resources\plugins\X-Life\Airports folder.

The "KORD - Chicago O'Hare Intl HD Nostatic" folder should go into your Custom Scenery directory. Also edit your scenery .ini file to move KORD - Chicago O'Hare Intl HD Nostatic above KORD - Chicago O'Hare Intl HD. Or use X-Organizer if you are on Windows http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/fi … r-windows/ to easier manage it. Highly recommended tool.

Thank you MrGeeBee. Much appreciated!

QUESTION: So the folder structure for the +41-088.dsf download is /Custom Scenery/Chicago O'Hare Intl HD Nostatic/+41-088.dsf? (Note the zipped download includes no folder structure itself.)

I ask because I typically see *.dsf files in /Custom Scenery/(Scenery name)/Earth nav data/...

Thanks again.

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Re: X-Life ver 1.3

Aquilam wrote:
MrGeeBee wrote:

The .dat and .txt files goes into X-Plane 11\Resources\plugins\X-Life\Airports folder.

The "KORD - Chicago O'Hare Intl HD Nostatic" folder should go into your Custom Scenery directory. Also edit your scenery .ini file to move KORD - Chicago O'Hare Intl HD Nostatic above KORD - Chicago O'Hare Intl HD. Or use X-Organizer if you are on Windows http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/fi … r-windows/ to easier manage it. Highly recommended tool.

Thank you MrGeeBee. Much appreciated!

QUESTION: So the folder structure for the +41-088.dsf download is /Custom Scenery/Chicago O'Hare Intl HD Nostatic/+41-088.dsf? (Note the zipped download includes no folder structure itself.)

I ask because I typically see *.dsf files in /Custom Scenery/(Scenery name)/Earth nav data/...

Thanks again.

Welcome, well in my zip it contains the whole file structure.

http://jardesign.org/forum/misc.php?act … download=1

KORD - Chicago O'Hare Intl HD Nostatic.zip\KORD - Chicago O'Hare Intl HD Nostatic\Earth nav data\+40-090\

Check your file as well, +41-088.dsf, 8702 bytes, CRC: EB2FFE26A, Packed size: 2275 bytes.

If it's ok, then just create the directory and put the file there. The folder is +41-090, important!

Safe flying!

36 (edited by Aquilam 2017-06-22 02:42:54)

Re: X-Life ver 1.3

It sure does! My apologies MrGeeBee! For some reason I had the Classic view enabled on Winzip instead of Explorer. You'd think after all these years of using Winzip I'd know better; I'm such a knuckle head.

BTW, thank you for the tip regarding xOrganizer--great utility!

UPDATE: Working great! It's wonderful watching KORD come to life with dynamic traffic! Thanks again!

37

Re: X-Life ver 1.3

Hi,
i have found an error, you don't have to resolv it but maybe it helps you for further improvement:

When starting a flight from LOWG (Graz) [http://www.x-plane.at/drupal/LOWG-Graz-Thalerhof] i get an Segmentation Error if i use a valid SID endpoint as first waypoint for ATC flightplan.
LOWG SID MILGO DCT VATET DCT REDBU Q112 NAPSA STAR EDDM -> Seg fault
LOWG SID REDBU Q112 NAPSA NAPS2A EDDM  -> No Problem , but no SID used.

My suggestion is that there is a problem by resolving the airport SIDs because tehre are two other runways which are used by small planes and have no SIDs.

Tried out on Xplane 11 with Boeing 737 (ZIBO mod 2.79)

38 (edited by MrGeeBee 2017-06-23 00:28:51)

Re: X-Life ver 1.3

Devirex wrote:

Hi,
i have found an error, you don't have to resolv it but maybe it helps you for further improvement:

When starting a flight from LOWG (Graz) [http://www.x-plane.at/drupal/LOWG-Graz-Thalerhof] i get an Segmentation Error if i use a valid SID endpoint as first waypoint for ATC flightplan.
LOWG SID MILGO DCT VATET DCT REDBU Q112 NAPSA STAR EDDM -> Seg fault
LOWG SID REDBU Q112 NAPSA NAPS2A EDDM  -> No Problem , but no SID used.

My suggestion is that there is a problem by resolving the airport SIDs because tehre are two other runways which are used by small planes and have no SIDs.

Tried out on Xplane 11 with Boeing 737 (ZIBO mod 2.79)

Is it MILGO you are referring to?

MILGO is not a SID, it's a NAV point. The SID's are MILGO5G, MILGO2H for RWY 17 and MILGO4U for RWY 35. And according to your flight plan that works you have changed STAR to the actual NAPS2A which is for RWY 08 and 26 ARR.

I'm not really following you along here, are you referring to the SID or STAR?

The first one is the most correct, but I can only make it work as follows:

LOWG SID REDBU Q112 NAPSA STAR EDDM.

REDBU is the the START segment on Q112 and pass TITIG then out on NAPSA. There seems to be a problem with SEGMENTS (airways) and Segment Errors with X-Life.

But a route like:

LOWG SID MILGO VATET REDBU TITIG NAPSA STAR EDDM won't work. X-Life seems to not be able to connect NAV points, DCT doesn't help either. DCT shouldn't be needed anyway so.

It's wierd though, becuse:

MILGO VATET REDBU Q112 NAPSA is even valid in CFMU so... Well I guess JAR have an answer to this maybe?

NOTE:
It doesn't matter if you just file LOWG SID REDBU Q112 NAPSA STAR EDDM to ATC, then program your FMS with correct RWY's, SID and STAR. They might tell you some vector info, but just ignore it. smile Attached my FML from the 737, you can put that in your Output\FMS plans and load it to check.

Post's attachments

Attachment icon LOWGEDDM.fml 244.18 kb, 431 downloads since 2017-06-22 

39 (edited by Devirex 2017-06-23 11:01:45)

Re: X-Life ver 1.3

MrGeeBee wrote:
Devirex wrote:

Hi,
i have found an error, you don't have to resolv it but maybe it helps you for further improvement:

When starting a flight from LOWG (Graz) [http://www.x-plane.at/drupal/LOWG-Graz-Thalerhof] i get an Segmentation Error if i use a valid SID endpoint as first waypoint for ATC flightplan.
LOWG SID MILGO DCT VATET DCT REDBU Q112 NAPSA STAR EDDM -> Seg fault
LOWG SID REDBU Q112 NAPSA NAPS2A EDDM  -> No Problem , but no SID used.

My suggestion is that there is a problem by resolving the airport SIDs because tehre are two other runways which are used by small planes and have no SIDs.

Tried out on Xplane 11 with Boeing 737 (ZIBO mod 2.79)

Is it MILGO you are referring to?

MILGO is not a SID, it's a NAV point. The SID's are MILGO5G, MILGO2H for RWY 17 and MILGO4U for RWY 35. And according to your flight plan that works you have changed STAR to the actual NAPS2A which is for RWY 08 and 26 ARR.

I'm not really following you along here, are you referring to the SID or STAR?

The first one is the most correct, but I can only make it work as follows:

LOWG SID REDBU Q112 NAPSA STAR EDDM.

REDBU is the the START segment on Q112 and pass TITIG then out on NAPSA. There seems to be a problem with SEGMENTS (airways) and Segment Errors with X-Life.

But a route like:

LOWG SID MILGO VATET REDBU TITIG NAPSA STAR EDDM won't work. X-Life seems to not be able to connect NAV points, DCT doesn't help either. DCT shouldn't be needed anyway so.

It's wierd though, becuse:

MILGO VATET REDBU Q112 NAPSA is even valid in CFMU so... Well I guess JAR have an answer to this maybe?

NOTE:
It doesn't matter if you just file LOWG SID REDBU Q112 NAPSA STAR EDDM to ATC, then program your FMS with correct RWY's, SID and STAR. They might tell you some vector info, but just ignore it. smile Attached my FML from the 737, you can put that in your Output\FMS plans and load it to check.

Hi,

thanks for your answer! usually i am planning my flights without using fixed SID and STAR (the NAPSA2A was just a copy paste error from simbrief) and let the ATC decide which STAR i have to use. Therefore i use the keywords "SID" and "STAR" in X-Life ATC flightplan so i get one advised by radio if i use the correct last NAV fix of the SID (in this case MILGO). On other airports its working quite good, but on LOWG i have problems. Also the "generate route" is not working at this airport, which let me suggest that there is a problem with the SIDs recognized (parsed) by X-life. Using the SIDs of LOWG in FMC is no problem. I will try today with new AIRAC 1707, cloud also be the problem.

Anyway its not that problem because i was able to programm the fmc and ignore the ATC, it's just as information for JAR if that problem relates to some other bug like i had Yesterday with landing at EDDM.

At TOD i got 26R for NAPSA -> not possible (switched to 26L via NAP26 trasition)
After NAP26 ( charts say you have to be comfirmed by ATC to final approach) i tried "Request vectoring" and thought maybe i could get the next waypoint by ATC but that didn't work an send me back to NAPSA.
I didn't want to go back to NAPSA and decided to "resume own Navigation"
Now i had to contact center again and got a different runway 08R which was in the total different direction to my location.

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Re: X-Life ver 1.3

Hi,

If updated xlife to version 1.3 on xplane 11 (AIRAC 1707). As I am starting a new flight, like KMIA-KSFO, I start xlife before I start my aircraft. There is the "loading... please wait" screen but nothing happens. For example if I try to file my flightplan to atc xlife says "please start traffic", which I previously did and no matter how often I restart xplane and or the plugin, I won't get it running anymore.

Anyone's got an idea on this problem?

Thanks

41

Re: X-Life ver 1.3

Knallstock12 wrote:

Hi,

If updated xlife to version 1.3 on xplane 11 (AIRAC 1707). As I am starting a new flight, like KMIA-KSFO, I start xlife before I start my aircraft. There is the "loading... please wait" screen but nothing happens. For example if I try to file my flightplan to atc xlife says "please start traffic", which I previously did and no matter how often I restart xplane and or the plugin, I won't get it running anymore.

Anyone's got an idea on this problem?

Thanks

On the "supported airports Map" there is only the payware version of KMIA, do you have this?
If not it could be that the taxiroutes are misaligned to the freeware version taxiways and not working.

42 (edited by cmckjodi 2017-06-26 17:07:51)

Re: X-Life ver 1.3

I agree that there is still a problem with KMIA not loading traffic in the latest x life version. It's an approved airport so it should work. This is the only airport that this happens in my experience. You shouldn't have to use a payware version.

43 (edited by cmckjodi 2017-06-26 17:06:53)

Re: X-Life ver 1.3

Application crash using the newest release of x-life. All was fine until approach into KORD. I had stopped using x-life for a long time because of this reason and was hoping the newest version was more stable. Any help is much appreciated!

Post's attachments

Attachment icon Log.txt 78.62 kb, 326 downloads since 2017-06-26 

Attachment icon x-life.dmp 157.52 kb, 337 downloads since 2017-06-26 

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Re: X-Life ver 1.3

On another flight to KSLC which is an approved airport, the traffic came on as expected in the lower left screen, but then as I was vectored away from the airport (more than 53 nm) the traffic disappeared from the lower left screen as is normal. Upon coming back into range, the traffic regenerated but became non active with no planes departing or landing. The ATC was functioning ok but I never got a final clearance to land. When I landed at KSLC the airport was blank with no planes rendered. Although I give X-life some high marks for now being complete with ATC guidance, and at times it does work well, there are still too many inconsistencies that I find when using this program. It's understood that the migration with XP 11 can't be easy, but hoping that in time everything gets sorted out. X-Life will be really great it just needs more time

45

Re: X-Life ver 1.3

Not sure where to post this. I've downloaded xlife and installed it on windows 10 64bit along with xplane 11. I've also installed bluebell libraries. When I start xplane 11 and xlife, I get the models but every one of them is grey with no liveries. Anyone have a clue about how to get the liveries.

46

Re: X-Life ver 1.3

Thank you for all your opinions and info!

We just switch to release http://jardesign.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3222