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1.2b1 not uploaded to server, but you can try it out right now
(only .xpl should be updated)
xpl_1.2b1.zip 1.16 mb, 466 downloads since 2016-06-01
Good day,
Thank-you AJ ...
Brian
Completed a fun flight from KATL to KILM with the new v1.2b1.
FANTASTIC!
Had a bit of a panic when on final with heavy fog and trees in the way so I did a GA and landed on the second attempt, flying through trees just above 200 ft. I wonder what the PAX thought of that? Also, for some reason, I had to control speed manually. It wouldn't decrease below 250 in selected mode. Probably my fault for not doing something right.
A very satisfying experience overall!
Completed a fun flight from KATL to KILM with the new v1.2b1.
FANTASTIC!
Had a bit of a panic when on final with heavy fog and trees in the way so I did a GA and landed on the second attempt, flying through trees just above 200 ft. I wonder what the PAX thought of that? Also, for some reason, I had to control speed manually. It wouldn't decrease below 250 in selected mode. Probably my fault for not doing something right.
A very satisfying experience overall!
Good day,
if you set your GA altitude to 2500/ 3000 / 5000 since, the ATC has not been set up to give you a GA altitude yet, and then when you do do a GA you can set the Auto-pilot to capture the blue Line and you will vector out the way the flight plan is set-up to work.
I have been able to do the procedure also, and with much ease...Kinda cool...
Brian
Installed the latest beta today and still getting the same problem in EIDW. KLM 777 at the top of 34 continuously turnaround in circles and everything else holding until it moves which appears to be never. According to the data, it's supposed to be taking off.
laohu314 wrote:Completed a fun flight from KATL to KILM with the new v1.2b1.
FANTASTIC!
Had a bit of a panic when on final with heavy fog and trees in the way so I did a GA and landed on the second attempt, flying through trees just above 200 ft. I wonder what the PAX thought of that? Also, for some reason, I had to control speed manually. It wouldn't decrease below 250 in selected mode. Probably my fault for not doing something right.
A very satisfying experience overall!Good day,
if you set your GA altitude to 2500/ 3000 / 5000 since, the ATC has not been set up to give you a GA altitude yet, and then when you do do a GA you can set the Auto-pilot to capture the blue Line and you will vector out the way the flight plan is set-up to work.
I have been able to do the procedure also, and with much ease...Kinda cool...
Brian
Yup, did that. It is fun. Also takes you back to the IAF but I usually use selected HDG to circle back from the last GA waypoint and then switch back to managed HDG when I'm almost lined up to the IAF. It is so cool to fly this aircraft (A320neo JAR).
KILM to KRIC good flight but CTD at KRIC while taxiing to gate. FM car drove into the grass so I kept going just by map and then CTD.
Logs attached
bbox_log.txt 12.72 kb, 262 downloads since 2016-06-01
Cycle Dump.txt 32.75 kb, 298 downloads since 2016-06-01
Log.txt 97.73 kb, 333 downloads since 2016-06-01
OSXCRASH.txt 71.53 kb, 273 downloads since 2016-06-01
Test flight KSAN - KLAS , A330 stable version, XL v.1.2b1, iMac27
Great short flight. Both airports sceneries are great especially at evening - no crash
Hints:
1.For this flight you must plan your Sid and STAR from the outset.
2. If XL Flight route seems to be wrong, download your route choose as a .txt file to XLife /FlightPlans folder
and upload it into FMC with "Download from file"
The new possibility to choose alternative RWY for landing was great. XL gave me RWY25, but my programmed
flight route and STAR ended on RWY 01L and this was indeed the alternative RWY I could asked for! this is a total new dimension for near real APPR !
Have a look at the vivid traffic ....
Test flight KSAN - KLAS , A330 stable version, XL v.1.2b1, iMac27
Great short flight. Both airports sceneries are great especially at evening - no crash
Hints:
1.For this flight you must plan your Sid and STAR from the outset.
2. If XL Flight route seems to be wrong, download your route choose as a .txt file to XLife /FlightPlans folder
and upload it into FMC with "Download from file"The new possibility to choose alternative RWY for landing was great. XL gave me RWY25, but my programmed
flight route and STAR ended on RWY 01L and this was indeed the alternative RWY I could asked for! this is a total new dimension for near real APPR !Have a look at the vivid traffic ....
You can now choose an alternate landing runway? Now that's real life! I had made that suggestion and I'm sure others have as well. I'm so glad JAR has added this feature! Sometimes weather conditions and visibility change quickly or a pilot has a preference for a parallel runway and approach. Thank you JAR and team will test soon! JAR does his best for us! cmck
Hi guys. I missed the last 2 weeks. Was sick. I have no idea which the latest beta version is neither on which page the link is.
Also. When I use my Carenado Malibu (Only this aircraft -- all my others works perfectly with XL), The destination airport is always just about deserted. Maybe one or tw0 aircraft taxiing about. PS! I only use XL approved airports.
See attached files
Thanks
Dewald
Log.txt 73.23 kb, 291 downloads since 2016-06-02
x-life.dmp 139.76 kb, 334 downloads since 2016-06-02
CTD on final approach KRIC to KEWR
iMac 27” (late 2015), Core i7, OSX 10.11.4, 32GB RAM, AMD Radeon R9 M395X 4096 MB VRAM
Saitek X52, Radio, Switch and Multi Panel, TM Cougar, XP 10.45, latest beta JAR A220neo, XL 1.2b1, SMP3, RWC, FWL, PythonInterface, Xchecklist
Also, ATC gave me an incorrect STAR for KEWR (DYLN4 instead of PHLBO3 for rwy22L).
Would it be possible in one of the next updates to get to choose the STAR? I think right now the STARs given by ATC are not optimal.
bbox_log.txt 13.26 kb, 262 downloads since 2016-06-02
Cycle Dump.txt 32.75 kb, 292 downloads since 2016-06-02
Log.txt 107.32 kb, 281 downloads since 2016-06-02
OSXCRASH.txt 71.45 kb, 292 downloads since 2016-06-02
Hi guys. I missed the last 2 weeks. Was sick. I have no idea which the latest beta version is neither on which page the link is.
Also. When I use my Carenado Malibu (Only this aircraft -- all my others works perfectly with XL), The destination airport is always just about deserted. Maybe one or tw0 aircraft taxiing about. PS! I only use XL approved airports.
See attached files
Thanks
Dewald
Good day,
Hi there yes I have not seen you for a while so, I am saying that the reason for the CTD is most likely the aircraft type and XL combination since , the XL is not set-up for GA yet. Since, we do not have the Flight levels set for GA as in the 6,000 to 8,000 where I am guessing is the best operating level for most GA aircraft. And yes this issue will be worked on sometime down the road but please don't ask for an exact date or time as I am not JAR and he will be working on it as soon as he see fit to work on the issue.
thank-you for your help,
and happy flying,
Brian
Test flight KSAN - KLAS , A330 stable version, XL v.1.2b1, iMac27
No crash
Approach annotation:
Flying toward KSFO shortly before TD I got from control the advice to land on RWY 19R. (way too short for A330) Then ATC gave me also option to land on RWY 28L or 28R.
I chose 28R. What happened was that first given STAR (ALWYS1) that was correct was now after the given advice for 28R changed to (BDEGA2) a completely wrong advice. (See images)
Because I am using for every flight my Navigraph charts, I planed ahead my route, according to wind situation the RWY to land, and the appropriate STAR. Feeding this data into FMC, didn't clash with ATC on approach especially because capturing ILS was in case of 19R and 28R at same FL.
As result, I would like to recommend to comparing ROUTE on XL "Flight Plan" with correspondingly charts, especially if a specific landing RWY is preferred.
1. KSFO AFC
2. ALWYS1 STAR to RWY 19R
3. BDEGA2 wrong STAR - should lead to RWY 28R
4 an impression of the purchased KSFO scenery...
log.txt 5.25 kb, 237 downloads since 2016-06-02
Good day,
I just want to point out as people point out and go to the trouble of making the very good post on how the SID and STAR works for one airport or another this data will change as soon as the Nav data from the Nav companies is updated and the new cycle comes out. So, don't we know already that the departing SID that JAR will work on at some point will take a full re-work on the MCDU so that the X-Life can match up to pick the right SID as soon as the Nav data up-dates this is a very difficult undertaking ...
Step two is to pick the STAR for the right runway that ATC has vectored you to land at. and you need to be able to choose the STAR that works for the runway that ATC has picked and this is already happening in the take-off ATC area of the XL app.
So, the point ... what do we want and or need to do to get the results needed ...
Brian
Hello,
i use the last x-life beta and i have the following behaviour.
Inside my JarDesign A330 aircraft i remove the park brake . If i shutdown the x-life Plugin with
the power button, the park brake from my aircraft would be set to on.
I think thats not normal. I tested it with 2 different x-plane instances on different computers.
Log.zip 21.65 kb, 262 downloads since 2016-06-02
Dewald wrote:Hi guys. I missed the last 2 weeks. Was sick. I have no idea which the latest beta version is neither on which page the link is.
Also. When I use my Carenado Malibu (Only this aircraft -- all my others works perfectly with XL), The destination airport is always just about deserted. Maybe one or tw0 aircraft taxiing about. PS! I only use XL approved airports.
See attached files
Thanks
DewaldGood day,
Hi there yes I have not seen you for a while so, I am saying that the reason for the CTD is most likely the aircraft type and XL combination since , the XL is not set-up for GA yet. Since, we do not have the Flight levels set for GA as in the 6,000 to 8,000 where I am guessing is the best operating level for most GA aircraft. And yes this issue will be worked on sometime down the road but please don't ask for an exact date or time as I am not JAR and he will be working on it as soon as he see fit to work on the issue.
thank-you for your help,
and happy flying,
Brian
Thanks Brian -- Apreciated
Flew from KDFW to KOKC, no CTD with new 1.2b1.
I did notice a flight level discrepancy between ATC and pilot regarding FL.
XL: 6100 : > ATC: N982AR, Identified, expect CAMET1 arrival, RNAV approach Runway 13, descend to FL 38
XL: 6100 : > Pilot: Descending to FL190, expect CAMET1 arrival, RNAV approach Runway 13, N982AR
The new feature to choose departure and arrival runways is G-R-E-A-T !!!!
Thank you for taking under consideration ideas from your World Wide audience.
Log.txt 182.45 kb, 254 downloads since 2016-06-02
Good day,
I just want to point out as people point out and go to the trouble of making the very good post on how the SID and STAR works for one airport or another this data will change as soon as the Nav data from the Nav companies is updated and the new cycle comes out. So, don't we know already that the departing SID that JAR will work on at some point will take a full re-work on the MCDU so that the X-Life can match up to pick the right SID as soon as the Nav data up-dates this is a very difficult undertaking ...Step two is to pick the STAR for the right runway that ATC has vectored you to land at. and you need to be able to choose the STAR that works for the runway that ATC has picked and this is already happening in the take-off ATC area of the XL app.
So, the point ... what do we want and or need to do to get the results needed ...
Brian
Hi,
Vectoring is a good point: Does ATC give me vectors, when I'm flying e.g. the 727 or 732? Of course I could use the CIVA, but you know - reality 
Thanks vor feedback, ans cheers,
Thomas
captbullett wrote:Good day,
I just want to point out as people point out and go to the trouble of making the very good post on how the SID and STAR works for one airport or another this data will change as soon as the Nav data from the Nav companies is updated and the new cycle comes out. So, don't we know already that the departing SID that JAR will work on at some point will take a full re-work on the MCDU so that the X-Life can match up to pick the right SID as soon as the Nav data up-dates this is a very difficult undertaking ...Step two is to pick the STAR for the right runway that ATC has vectored you to land at. and you need to be able to choose the STAR that works for the runway that ATC has picked and this is already happening in the take-off ATC area of the XL app.
So, the point ... what do we want and or need to do to get the results needed ...
Brian
Hi,
Vectoring is a good point: Does ATC give me vectors, when I'm flying e.g. the 727 or 732? Of course I could use the CIVA, but you know - reality
Thanks vor feedback, ans cheers,
Thomas
Good day,
Yes, some of these questions I can't answer but yes I do know about being vectored and a need for the operation in the flight plan this could help resolve some of the issues maybe or maybe not only a real pilot can give the answer.
And right now I do not think you are vectored except on a GA for a missed approached on the Flight plan side of X-Life, now on the flight plan side of the aircraft you should be able to program in a vector where you want to on the aircraft you are talking about you just put the way points into the flight plan and the MCDU...
Happy flying,
Brian
Good day,
Ok, so for the need to know and for the refresher corse and I always need to learn new things here is a site that will teach you some
SID and STAR information you might already know but need to refresh the knogen...
Happy flying,
Brian
Hello everyone,
The CYQB's routes I made, the traffic is always the same (same operators) they're not random, what could possibly be the problem?
Good day,
Yes, some of these questions I can't answer but yes I do know about being vectored and a need for the operation in the flight plan this could help resolve some of the issues maybe or maybe not only a real pilot can give the answer.And right now I do not think you are vectored except on a GA for a missed approached on the Flight plan side of X-Life, now on the flight plan side of the aircraft you should be able to program in a vector where you want to on the aircraft you are talking about you just put the way points into the flight plan and the MCDU...
Happy flying,
Brian
Hi Brian,
thanks for your feedback. But I guess, you didn't get the point, I was talking of, could it be? The A330, A320, A340, I'm sitting in has a MCDU and FMC and FMGS, which our Dispatchers are feeding every day. And we in the cockpit are doing some correctements. But, as you maybe know, there was a time before all this GPS-things. And that happened in the 727 and 737-200 (as I remember this not really an GA But still flying for NASA (727), and some state-machines (727, 732). Maybe you know them better than me, and can show me, how to feed in a plane with VOR and no GPS, no FMC, no MCDU, how to insert in the Heading the SIDs and STARs Only thing would be CIVA. But better for you, to take place in the Jumpseat on a real plane, and watch an approach on KLAX, KDFW, KJFK,... . Then talk to me again, if the PF was flying the complete STAR, or if he was suddenly vectored, because of traffic, shortcuts, weather, and so on.
There's a huge difference between gaming and simming and real-life.
Cheers
Thomas
captbullett wrote:Good day,
Yes, some of these questions I can't answer but yes I do know about being vectored and a need for the operation in the flight plan this could help resolve some of the issues maybe or maybe not only a real pilot can give the answer.And right now I do not think you are vectored except on a GA for a missed approached on the Flight plan side of X-Life, now on the flight plan side of the aircraft you should be able to program in a vector where you want to on the aircraft you are talking about you just put the way points into the flight plan and the MCDU...
Happy flying,
Brian
Hi Brian,
thanks for your feedback. But I guess, you didn't get the point, I was talking of, could it be?
There's a huge difference between gaming and simming and real-life.Cheers
Thomas
Clearly, vectoring from ATC would be ideal and most realistic. Pilots I talked to say that they practically never fly a complete route for the exact reasons Thomas pointed out. However, I am not sure that currently an AI ATC is able to do that correctly without frying our systems, or even to pick the correct STAR in some cases. Therefore, I suggested to go back from AI to HI and use our own heads to choose the correct STAR in case the AI fails to do so. Also, I believe that poses a smaller programming challenge but maybe @JAR can weigh in here as well.
PS: I think Brian meant GA = "Go Around" and not "General Aircraft"...
captbullett wrote:Good day,
Yes, some of these questions I can't answer but yes I do know about being vectored and a need for the operation in the flight plan this could help resolve some of the issues maybe or maybe not only a real pilot can give the answer.And right now I do not think you are vectored except on a GA for a missed approached on the Flight plan side of X-Life, now on the flight plan side of the aircraft you should be able to program in a vector where you want to on the aircraft you are talking about you just put the way points into the flight plan and the MCDU...
Happy flying,
Brian
Hi Brian,
thanks for your feedback. But I guess, you didn't get the point, I was talking of, could it be?
There's a huge difference between gaming and simming and real-life.Cheers
Thomas
Good day,
Yes, I now do understand and time is everything you can't pause real life ... And how, X-Life or X-Plane pilots say something is wrong if they are not a real pilot... there I said it ... I was betting around the bush trying not to start another argument... on the post...
Happy Flying,
Brian
Did a flight from KBOS to BIKF in the A330 that went well from the XL point of view.
I did have issues with programming the route so I will maybe post this in the A330 part of this forum. Suffice it to say, I had trouble with auto-land (AP didn't capture glide slope, maybe because Navigraph AIRAC 1606 data for BIKF are incorrect) and had to manually land the bird which was scary to say the least. All went well though.
I'm planning to make my way east into Russia and China and back to US in many small steps using only XL approved airports...
So far I have done CYVR-KSEA-KPDX-KSFO-KSAN-KPHX-KDFW-KATL-KILM-KRIC-KBOS-BIKF
One additional thing on XL: when I try to load a route with transatlantic waypoints (e.g 6250N) the route doesn't get loaded into the aircraft correctly.
I can manually put it into the FMGC using the MCDU and all works well. Looks like that's a XL glitch. Maybe JAR Could look into it sometime, please?
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