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Topic: How X-Life decide which runway to use?

I follow your guideline, all traffic works fine in my customized airport. but I found X-life traffic use wrong-runway, because the wind direction is opposite.

2 (edited by vatech 2016-03-23 10:45:28)

Re: How X-Life decide which runway to use?

cpuwolf wrote:

I follow your guideline, all traffic works fine in my customized airport. but I found X-life traffic use wrong-runway, because the wind direction is opposite.

What does it mean opposite? Tail or headwind? X-Life takes metar from the same server like X-Plane.

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Re: How X-Life decide which runway to use?

vatech wrote:
cpuwolf wrote:

I follow your guideline, all traffic works fine in my customized airport. but I found X-life traffic use wrong-runway, because the wind direction is opposite.

What does it mean opposite? Tail or headwind?

traffic take off with tailwind. I mean can I define which runway to use for these traffic?

4 (edited by vatech 2016-03-23 11:03:31)

Re: How X-Life decide which runway to use?

cpuwolf wrote:

traffic take off with tailwind. I mean can I define which runway to use for these traffic?

No you can not. But you sure what exatly tail wind blows? It can be variable, and ATC gave runway based to forecast. And don't use the external weather program (like EFASS for example), because in this case may be difference wiht x-plane in metar.

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Re: How X-Life decide which runway to use?

vatech wrote:
cpuwolf wrote:

traffic take off with tailwind. I mean can I define which runway to use for these traffic?

No you can not. But you sure what exatly tail wind blows? It can be variable, and ATC gave runway based to forecast. And don't use the external weather program (like EFASS for example), because in this case may be difference wiht x-plane in metar.

no I didn't use external weather program. the wind is fixed by wheather settings. I will try it again

6 (edited by vatech 2016-03-23 12:39:32)

Re: How X-Life decide which runway to use?

cpuwolf
X-Life can not use the fixed weather settings. Uses only real weather from x-plane.

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Re: How X-Life decide which runway to use?

There is also another problem, here. X-Life does not consider the aircraft you are flying; it's happen to me that it sent me to take off from a runway that was too short for my aircraft (B772).

On my opinion this feature should be definitely implemented.

Thank you!

8 (edited by thomas_99 2016-03-23 12:55:06)

Re: How X-Life decide which runway to use?

Hi !

Yes, and X-Life will guide you to a gate which is too small for a bigger plane,
e.g. set the A320 to a prop stand. This is annoying on regional airports where you have
stands/gates for prop planes...

Michael wrote:

There is also another problem, here. X-Life does not consider the aircraft you are flying; it's happen to me that it sent me to take off from a runway that was too short for my aircraft (B772).

On my opinion this feature should be definitely implemented.

Thank you!

best regards,

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Re: How X-Life decide which runway to use?

vatech wrote:

cpuwolf
X-Life can not use the fixed weather settings. Uses only real weather from x-plane.

last night, I increased wind speed a little bit to 20 knots. then all traffic use headwind to takeoff and landing.

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Re: How X-Life decide which runway to use?

Michael wrote:

There is also another problem, here. X-Life does not consider the aircraft you are flying; it's happen to me that it sent me to take off from a runway that was too short for my aircraft (B772).

On my opinion this feature should be definitely implemented.

Thank you!

seems you are looking at duplex version. and I am using free version

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Re: How X-Life decide which runway to use?

It would be nice to be able to ask ATC to change plan for a landing on a runway with ILS or simply those used in real life.
ATC does not take in account the specificity approach off some airports. This is frustrating because you have to disobey ATC if you don't want to crash your plane.
Exemples: LSZH  in reality runway 32 is not used for landing. It should be 14, 34 or 28 and for take off usually 16 or 28
                 LOWS Have you try to land with no visibility on runway 33. There is no plate for this approach between muntains

12 (edited by ThommiTechnik 2016-04-23 15:45:33)

Re: How X-Life decide which runway to use?

robmic@hispeed.ch wrote:

It would be nice to be able to ask ATC to change plan for a landing on a runway with ILS or simply those used in real life.
ATC does not take in account the specificity approach off some airports. This is frustrating because you have to disobey ATC if you don't want to crash your plane.
Exemples: LSZH  in reality runway 32 is not used for landing. It should be 14, 34 or 28 and for take off usually 16 or 28
                 LOWS Have you try to land with no visibility on runway 33. There is no plate for this approach between muntains

Yeah, another one notices the challenges at LSZH wink And we are at this point not talking about the time-restrictions...

Small workaround: I opened Gate Editor, and excluded 10 from Landing. I don't remember, when we had a touch-down on 10 wink Saving the new LSZH.txt, and it stays as Non-Landing. Also 28 and 16 for T/O, but not 14. But hey, sometimes the People's Plane want to go from 32... So sometimes more work on preparing LSZH, than on preps for the flight itself wink

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Re: How X-Life decide which runway to use?

Really want to know?

Thats easy, sure (sorry it have russian comments only):

void SelectRWY(int TorL)
    {
        scn[scn_i].RWinUseUpdate();
       
        vector <int> goodRWlist;
        int biggestRWi = -1;
        double biggestRWlenM = -1;
       
        //перебираем все полосы
        for (int r = 0; r < scn[scn_i].Runways.size(); ++r)
        {
            //если курс рабочий  - выбираем
            if (TorL == 0 && scn[scn_i].Runways[r].workT == 1)
            {
                if (scn[scn_i].Runways[r].lenM > biggestRWlenM)
                {
                    //самая длинная ВПП
                    biggestRWlenM = scn[scn_i].Runways[r].lenM;
                    biggestRWi = r;
                }
                //если подходит по длине
                if ( scn[scn_i].Runways[r].lenM >= RWlenMINm ) goodRWlist.push_back(r);
            }
            if (TorL == 1 && scn[scn_i].Runways[r].workL == 1)
            {
                if (scn[scn_i].Runways[r].lenM > biggestRWlenM)
                {
                    //самая длинная ВПП
                    biggestRWlenM = scn[scn_i].Runways[r].lenM;
                    biggestRWi = r;
                }
                //если подходит по длине
                if ( scn[scn_i].Runways[r].lenM >= RWlenMINm ) goodRWlist.push_back(r);
            }
        }
       
        if (goodRWlist.size() > 0)
        {
            //случайно выбираем ВПП
            target_rwy = goodRWlist[rand() % goodRWlist.size()];
        }
        else
        {
            target_rwy = biggestRWi;
        }
       
        //если номер торца четный
        if (target_rwy == 0 || target_rwy % 2 == 0) oppos_rwy = target_rwy + 1;
        else oppos_rwy = target_rwy - 1;
       
    }

Please read a FAQ before you post a bug http://support.jardesign.org

14 (edited by Michael 2016-04-24 14:57:17)

Re: How X-Life decide which runway to use?

Yesterday I took off from LIRF.

While taxiing I had two traffic coming in front of me on the same taxiway and we basically crashed.

At a runway intersection, the ATC told me to hold because of traffic in the runway (landing), but i told me at the very last minute and was almost impossible for me to stop, but I did it. The funny thing is that the Follow Me Car at that time was already to the other side of the runway, it had already crossed it.

Thanks!

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Re: How X-Life decide which runway to use?

ThommiTechnik wrote:

Yeah, another one notices the challenges at LSZH wink And we are at this point not talking about the time-restrictions...

Small workaround: I opened Gate Editor, and excluded 10 from Landing. I don't remember, when we had a touch-down on 10 wink Saving the new LSZH.txt, and it stays as Non-Landing. Also 28 and 16 for T/O, but not 14. But hey, sometimes the People's Plane want to go from 32... So sometimes more work on preparing LSZH, than on preps for the flight itself wink

Thanks! You just make me discover this functionality. I was blind sorry!