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Re: X-Life public beta-6, 7, 8, 9 (Win & Mac)

Hi JAR,

I did a short test of X-Life. So far it worked good with my PC setup. And I think this plugin has a very high potential. A few things I would suggest:

  • Avoid X-Life aircraft overlay static aircraft of the scenery (e.g. EDDN scenery). Or use only scenery without static aircraft.

  • Make the ATC giving acoustic commands via COM radios with the corresponding frequencies.

  • Also, some basic interaction with ATC, like requesting change of FL, would be a real improvement for X-Plane.

If you could realise this, I would pay good money for your plugin.

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Re: X-Life public beta-6, 7, 8, 9 (Win & Mac)

Stefan wrote:

Hi JAR,

I did a short test of X-Life. So far it worked good with my PC setup. And I think this plugin has a very high potential. A few things I would suggest:

  • Avoid X-Life aircraft overlay static aircraft of the scenery (e.g. EDDN scenery). Or use only scenery without static aircraft.

  • Make the ATC giving acoustic commands via COM radios with the corresponding frequencies.

  • Also, some basic interaction with ATC, like requesting change of FL, would be a real improvement for X-Plane.

If you could realise this, I would pay good money for your plugin.

Hello,
overlay can exist if the ATC Routes developper make it (see my airports LFML and LFPO)
Corresponding frequencies are under development yet i think

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Hi Chaps,

I'm beginning to think that is is the old and annoying and since years not working routing function which
makes problems here.

Example: Airport CYXC

- The ATC routes are OK, but no traffic at all.
- I'm trying a flight from CYXC to KLAX
- X-Life Flight plan does not generate anything if using "CYXC" anfd "KLAX".
   the GENERATE funktion returns IMMEDIATELY with nothing, no error. Just empty.

   I think that it just returns without doing anything (look below why)

- using onlineflightplanner.org has no problem generating Route:
    "CYXC DCT FINBO J599 MLP J537 REO J7 FMG J5 EHF STAR KLAX" with same AIRAC as xplane.
- making a companx route and import this to A320NEO V2.6b4 works, but:
   -> can not remove F-PLAN-DICO... (see pic)

I think that's the same problem here and everywhere:

  1) X-Life can not generate a route
        -> no x-life traffic
  2) A320neo can not handle the route
        -> impossible to delete F-Plan-Disco
  3) same with A330
        -> impossible to delete F-Plan-Disco

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Chaps wrote:

Hi thomas_99
I have CYQM, CYFC and CYSJ ( Moncton, Fredericton and Saint John , NB ) done using the beta 9.1 version ( I have tried several times to buy the Deluxe version but for some reason, am unable to ) So far, I have only been able to get one aircraft at each airport to arrive ( don't know from where) , that parks correctly at a gate. wait a long time but never did I see another one arrive.
I have had only one aircraft depart from the gate , take the wrong taxiway but did get to the correct runway hold point and stayed there until I shut down X-Plane, probably 45 mins later
I don't know if the deluxe version works any better but  the beta still needs some work I think.

thomas_99 wrote:

Hi Jar,

what is the maximum distance between 2 x-life compatible airports ?

I've looked why CYXC has no traffic, and after fixing some problems I think is's ok
now, no errors/warnings.

But no traffic. Nothing.

I think that the problem is that I do not have any other airport installed in canada/usa which is
x-life compatible.

Is there a maximum range between 2 airports, and do I need at minimum 2 airports to get traffic ?

best regards,

best regards,

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Re: X-Life public beta-6, 7, 8, 9 (Win & Mac)

Hi,
Here's a latest with the new plugin win file. 
LSFM-LIRF
I noticed the skies were not populated at LFMN, and the runway at LIRF suggested by x-life ATC is not ILS, nor a runway for large planes I believe. I just ignored and went to 16 instead of 7. Skyies were populated there!
Other than that, GREAT!

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Good day,
thomas_99  CYXC  is not on the X-Life airport list on the map.
this is why you have a CTD,
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Hi !

It's too early, or I'm not drunken enough for such jokes :-)

captbullett wrote:

Good day,
thomas_99  CYXC  is not on the X-Life airport list on the map.
this is why you have a CTD,
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Re: X-Life public beta-6, 7, 8, 9 (Win & Mac)

Test flight EDDM - LOWG

crash during approach

RWy 17C has no ILS - false declaration

I recognized crash always after "Sound Play" What does it mean?
Wired is also that X-Plane ATC announces with test and voice also XL ATC ? Is it advisedly programmed ?

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608 Reply by SirOTheOne (edited by SirOTheOne 2016-03-20 17:39:51)

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@Eugeny

oops, while departing in LFPO (Orly) on RWY 02 in front an stopping aircraft. I did it with 25°, starting over the aircraft, but i think there is a small issue

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captbullett wrote:

Good day,
thomas_99  CYXC  is not on the X-Life airport list on the map.
this is why you have a CTD,
captbullett

If this is true, that's absolutely crazy.  I understand having a list of 'approved' airports, but for the plugin to fail when using another is a serious bug.  As long as the taxi network is setup correctly, there should be no reason why everything won't work.

Also, does anyone have any ideas about the plugin not being able to select a departure runway?  I still haven't heard anything about it  sad

I'm happy to include / test whatever I need to, but I'm out of ideas and need some guidance smile

Thanks!

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BluesmanEP wrote:
captbullett wrote:

Good day,
thomas_99  CYXC  is not on the X-Life airport list on the map.
this is why you have a CTD,
captbullett

If this is true, that's absolutely crazy.  I understand having a list of 'approved' airports, but for the plugin to fail when using another is a serious bug.  As long as the taxi network is setup correctly, there should be no reason why everything won't work.

Also, does anyone have any ideas about the plugin not being able to select a departure runway?  I still haven't heard anything about it  sad

I'm happy to include / test whatever I need to, but I'm out of ideas and need some guidance smile

Thanks!

That's what I meant earlier by "DoA" - if i bring out a plugin, that's working only on a handful of airports, it's crazy. A lot of (good) airports are brought out 2013, 2014, or so. And now every developer has to go again on its work?! Why inventing the wheel new?
To be right understood - I appreciate the work of ramzzess. It's a very good idea, to make ATC and taxiing and AI new, if Laminar is not going to do anything unless 10.5, 10.6. It's a little bit "Buy our car, but please drive it only on motorways, not in the city" (Sounds like a SUV in the city wink ). I'm not a programmer, but is there really no other chance?
For example: KBOS - ramzzess did .dat .txt, great. But I have a newer version of KBOS, from same author. Result: not compatible..... At this moment I'm resisting of support from major players in XPL......

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Hello,

the following bug solution or feature could be nice.

If i start from an airport, which is not inside the x-life engine, then
there is no traffic on the airport. Thats okay. But there is no traffic
in the air and nothing at the destination airport.

But if i start from an x-life airport like EDDM or EDDL, then i have traffic
everywhere in the air. Even if i land at a small airport.

Regards

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Re: X-Life public beta-6, 7, 8, 9 (Win & Mac)

In the beginning of the beta, I had no problem going from LFMN (in X-Life) to LEBL (NOT in X-Life).  I'd get all the takeoff and Flight plan info, but when landing at LEBL, I was on my own,,,there were CTD's if I asked/interacted with ATC,FM car etc. 
So I guess it's a bug within a bug sorta thang. But this is why we have beta testing! And this is why JAR Beta testers are actually the BEST Beta testers working here and on x-plane!
Thanks to Mr R of course!
In the meanwhile, we just keep keeping on and reporting, and eventually we amass many goals, one of which is just that one.
Thanks again Evgeny for a beautiful piece of work.
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Hi !

That's not true.

You need ATC routes on the airport (both departure and destination) and you will have
traffic.

If the airport is not listed in the x-life webside, you will get a warning but that's it. Traffic works.

Ok, there are some airports with atc routes and no traffic, but that's a bug.

marvel_master wrote:

Hello,

the following bug solution or feature could be nice.

If i start from an airport, which is not inside the x-life engine, then
there is no traffic on the airport. Thats okay. But there is no traffic
in the air and nothing at the destination airport.

But if i start from an x-life airport like EDDM or EDDL, then i have traffic
everywhere in the air. Even if i land at a small airport.

Regards

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I like to comment on BluesmanEP's comment about the plugin switching between runways and being unable to decide on which runway to use.
I have three airport ATC routes done using the tutorial from JAR. As far as I know they are done correctly, but not approved. I did get aircraft to arrive and go to the appropriate gate(s). However, I could not get any departure activity at all at either airport. The airports are approx 100kms apart.  After reading BluesmanEP's comment, I deleted all reference to one of the runways at one of the airports. This time I did get an aircraft to leave the gate go to the hold point at the correct end of the runway ( although it did take the wrong ATC route to get there ) it stayed there for awhile shut down the engines ( a prop plane) and did not move after.
My point is that at least there was movement with only one runway instead of two , so I think BluesmanEP's comment does require investigation.
Thanks

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Only one way to check this exactly and fast - contact me direct for checking results of your work.

Please read a FAQ before you post a bug http://support.jardesign.org

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J.A.Romanov wrote:

Only one way to check this exactly and fast - contact me direct for checking results of your work.

Email sent to you

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Hi Eugeny,

I hope that you saw my video. I forgot to copy log.txt..
This "loop" happened again and again until I went back (using Time Machine) to the last version of a successful
A330 flight (18.03) and installed at that time available XL 09.1 - Now I can fly (at least one successful flight I made today)
It seems that 09.2 has affected my A330 configuration...

Test Flight EDDM - LOWG no crash
but as often RWY 17C GNSS was declared as ILS !
to readback "when ILS alined" makes no sense, so ATC became useless....

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BluesmanEP wrote:
captbullett wrote:

Good day,
thomas_99  CYXC  is not on the X-Life airport list on the map.
this is why you have a CTD,
captbullett

If this is true, that's absolutely crazy.  I understand having a list of 'approved' airports, but for the plugin to fail when using another is a serious bug.  As long as the taxi network is setup correctly, there should be no reason why everything won't work.

Also, does anyone have any ideas about the plugin not being able to select a departure runway?  I still haven't heard anything about it  sad

I'm happy to include / test whatever I need to, but I'm out of ideas and need some guidance smile

Thanks!


Good day,
I had to move yesterday, and the comments go south stop right there,
this is the map of the approved airports and each airport has to have work done on it to be X-Life ready so, it takes time and effort so stop the negative comments please.
here is the map of the airports that are approved and if it is not on the list you will have a CTD if you try to use certain parts of X-Life.

Please be patent with everone as we all have a life outside of X-Plane.

Link:  https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mi … ecn3NB3GZ8

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Good day,
And, for you Information Not everything that goes wrong with a computer is a BUG  a bug has to be able to be reproduced more than one time and on more than one computer. If this does not happen then there is no bug!
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ilankrt wrote:

Hi Eugeny,

I hope that you saw my video. I forgot to copy log.txt..
This "loop" happened again and again until I went back (using Time Machine) to the last version of a successful
A330 flight (18.03) and installed at that time available XL 09.1 - Now I can fly (at least one successful flight I made today)
It seems that 09.2 has affected my A330 configuration...

Test Flight EDDM - LOWG no crash
but as often RWY 17C GNSS was declared as ILS !
to readback "when ILS alined" makes no sense, so ATC became useless....


When you go back to later version of Beta test then you do not help testing this only confuses the testing process.
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captbullett wrote:

Good day,
thomas_99  CYXC  is not on the X-Life airport list on the map.
this is why you have a CTD,
captbullett


Interesing. I have only message in red letters "XXX airport is not verified X-Live! Please use menu and" ..... etc, etc and I have this message for more than 20 airports , but whitout CTD or other problem.

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letec wrote:
captbullett wrote:

Good day,
thomas_99  CYXC  is not on the X-Life airport list on the map.
this is why you have a CTD,
captbullett


Interesing. I have only message in red letters "XXX airport is not verified X-Live! Please use menu and" ..... etc, etc and I have this message for more than 20 airports , but whitout CTD or other problem.


Yes, there are airports that are work in progress and just have not been approved and gone through the final steps like KLAX, KSNA, and KBOS just to name a few  the airport that I was posting about CYXC is not being worked on is it? if it is then I stand corrected and i see it is on the list so there but right here is the issue; at this link ; http://jardesign.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1825

I am having trouble sorting out my taxiroutes to make my freeware scenery CYXC x-life compatible would someone be able to help me out.
My scenery is at the following link:
http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?app … mentsStart
I will attach the .dat and .txt files to this post.
I see static planes when I load x-life but nothing happens with the planes they never move and there are no planes landing or taking off.
Any help greatfully received.

it is in the development of the taxi-way in the beginning of the development and this is why you are getting the CTD's!
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Hi, one question...

There any way to choose the airlines that want to appear according to the airport?

For example LEMD, Iberia is the largest company

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Hi !

captbullett wrote:

here is the map of the airports that are approved and if it is not on the list you will have a CTD if you try to use certain parts of X-Life.
captbullett

Sorry, but this is complete bullshit....

even a braindead programmer would not do that :-)

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@Captbullett What are the 'certain parts' that are supposed to cause a crash?

thomas_99 wrote:

Hi !

captbullett wrote:

here is the map of the airports that are approved and if it is not on the list you will have a CTD if you try to use certain parts of X-Life.
captbullett

Sorry, but this is complete bullshit....

even a braindead programmer would not do that :-)