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Topic: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

This is next public version of a330 for X-Plane 11. Both, a330 and simulator are on beta stage and have a numbers of issue. Please take part in this beta-tests if you really want be beta-tester. If you want fly-ready product - please just wait.

http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/22/t/p1b40vf5371b5910fg1col19db9hj3.jpg

http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/22/t/p1b40vf5371gsdqs70a19bvb54.jpg

http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/22/t/p1b40vf5371capnnbsg01hfg1da35.jpg

What is this and what happen with old XP10 version:

beta 1:
+ objects and textures was reworked according with new material system of XP11. Reworked.
+ NavData was removed from XP11 by Laminar Research and this was fixed for a330 (add _navdata with old Aerosoft cycle direct to a330 folder). Fixed.
+ a330 soundsystem was broken, cause X-Plane mastervolume datarefs. Now, you can use volume selectors from upper Plugins->Sound3D menu). Reworked.
+ a330 rain system was broken. Reworked.
+ add Diagnostic plugin, what can help if some installation was wrong (red message at screen if problem happen)
+ Framerate (FPS) is too low, compare with XP10, please use minimum visual settins to get normal framerate.
- Perfomance and fuel calculation was broken in XP11 and we will rework it at last stage, after XP11 release.
+ Navigation system was broken and FMGS was reworked to be compatible with new XP FMS. Sure, it have several issue now, like wrong flying on hold and wrong course to first air point. Please report. I will fix.
+ Cockpit buttons night lighting was broken. Fixed.
beta 2:
+ rework ND drawing, please test
+ vertical profile calculation reworked
+ sound issues fix
+ diagnostic plugin improve
beta 3
+ Go Around fixed
+ ILS diamonds indication fixed
+ ILS approach fixed
+ Sound Volume page in MCDU MENU fixed
+ Impossible engines shutdown fixed
+ 10300 KG fuel "stuck" fixed
+ some of minor XP11 incompatibles fixed
beta 5
+ APU fuel cons. fixed
+ Tow crash fixed
+ COM radio freq tuning fixed
+ cockpit light fixed
+ minor bugs fixed
beta 6
+ SPEED mode unstable fixed
+ LVR CLB flash fixed
+ vertical profile improved
beta 7
+ increase spoilers efficiency
+ Brake indication improved (thanks Lucas)
+ TOC/TOD indication fixed
+ Radio freq settings improved
+ Engines transparency bug fixed
+ some minor bugs fixed
beta 8
+ engines retune to make compatible with XP11pb13
beta 9
+ as Laminars just rework ILS "dot" datarefs and system, we fix this too


HOW TO INSTALL:

Please not mix files with other version.
Download link: outdate

Please install new version of Ground Handling to be well-compatible with XP11
Download link: http://jardesign.org/gndserv/download/GHD.zip

  - be sure, that you use X-Plane 11.00beta8
  - copy unziped "330_JARDesign" folder to ..\X-Plane 10\Aircraft\ folder
    (be sure, what you are not use nonEnglish symbols in aircraft installation path)
  - please visit download more fresh version of Ground Handling plugin. It work with JARDesign 330 without registration (for free). Please note what “Deluxe” version of this plugin (may work with other aircrafts) is payware.
  - start X-Plane 64 bit and open a330, activation window is going to show up
  - enter your serial key (Regcode), click NEXT and after a successful activation reopen aircraft via X-Plane menu
  - activation works well with both MAC/WIN 64 bit

UPDATE YOU NAV DATA WITH FRESH CYCLE (if needed)
a330 use NavData from
../X-PLANE 11/Custom Data/GNS430/navdata/ folder
if not find there – will try to read it from
../X-PLANE 11/Aircraft/330_JARDesign/_navdata/
If you need update your cycle, please use Aerosoft/Navigraph
- “JARDesign a320/330 Native format” or (the same in fact)
- “XPLANE_GNS430_777WORLDLINER_FF757PROF_NATIVE”
and put new cycle to ..X-PLANE 10/Custom Data/navdata/ folder

About serials and activations:

- All beta-testers, who have personal serial from JARDesign may use it with XP11. If problems - please skype me or http://www.support.jardesign.org
- All users who bought the A330 AFTER the X-Plane 11 presentation event (October 2016 and later) may use their serials with X-Plane 11. If problems - please http://www.support.jardesign.org
- All users who bought the A330 BEFORE the X-Plane 11 presentation event (October 2016 and later) may update their serials (get new one) to make it worked with both - XP10 and XP11.

This JARDesign service should help for any users, what have a330 from any shop http://jardesign.org/a330-jd-x-plane-11-update/

Update fee is about $19,95 (not include VAT for your country). Sure, you own a330 for X-Plane 10 and may continue to use it with X-Plane 10 simulator with no problem. No update need in this case. Support is continue.

As you know may be, you may use some my tricks from facebook to take a330 for XP10 and make it loadable with XP11. Please note what some old XP10 features not supported by XP11 more and you will get aircraft with not 100% compatible 3D, perfomance and (after saving with new PlaneMaker) FMGS navigation part.

Please note what this time we have beta of X-Plane 11 and beta of a330 ("beta" - product for testing and may not work well, hare errors and so on). If you need release, need stable version, please wait.

Thank you!!!!


Info BSS:

Guys, Blue Sky Star Simulations A330 sound pack does work with this version, you don't need to change anything, just get the latest version using the same link provided to you when purchased, if purchased from our store. Version name should be 2.01, read the instructions and make a clean install. If bought from X-plane.org, their version must be up to date to. If you have lost the link, or link no longer works, contact amrussinc@gmail.com with proof of purchase (email used at transaction)
Regards, BSS

Please read a FAQ before you post a bug http://support.jardesign.org

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

What if I bought this plane from .Org store? Will updating serial procedure for .Org store customers differ in any way?

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

Right now I have learned that there is a new version of the A330 compatible to XP11. JAR published a beta version of it. My question is if this version is also compatible with XP10.51?
(I am still waiting for a regular XP11 disk version and the compatibility of all JAR products with XP11)

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

ilankrt wrote:

Right now I have learned that there is a new version of the A330 compatible to XP11. JAR published a beta version of it. My question is if this version is also compatible with XP10.51?
(I am still waiting for a regular XP11 disk version and the compatibility of all JAR products with XP11)


If aircraft saved in XP11 PlaneMaker, like this case - it cant be open with X-Plane 10 more.

Please read a FAQ before you post a bug http://support.jardesign.org

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

ilankrt wrote:

Right now I have learned that there is a new version of the A330 compatible to XP11. JAR published a beta version of it. My question is if this version is also compatible with XP10.51?
(I am still waiting for a regular XP11 disk version and the compatibility of all JAR products with XP11)

This depend how old your purchase was. If fresh - will work right now. Else - need update your serial. Anyway, both jardesign.org and x-plane.org shop will be useful to get updated key, not depend where you get it first time.

Please read a FAQ before you post a bug http://support.jardesign.org

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

Hi !

J.A.Romanov wrote:
ilankrt wrote:

Right now I have learned that there is a new version of the A330 compatible to XP11. JAR published a beta version of it. My question is if this version is also compatible with XP10.51?
(I am still waiting for a regular XP11 disk version and the compatibility of all JAR products with XP11)

This depend how old your purchase was. If fresh - will work right now. Else - need update your serial. Anyway, both jardesign.org and x-plane.org shop will be useful to get updated key, not depend where you get it first time.

But at the moment, neither x-plane.org shop nor jardesign.org have a choice to update the serial, just possible to buy
the full version...

best regards,

Thomas

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

Quick setup, take off and landing at CYYC... looks good Sir. No apparent problems... Thank you and looking forward to many more flights.

i5 8600K OC@ 5.0Ghz, 16 GB DDR4-RAM
ASUS ROG STRIX GTX 1070 - X55 Saitek Pro Rhino Stick, X55 Saitek Rhino Throttle
Windows 10 64 Bit - X-plane 11.11 - X-Enviro 1.07 - X-Ivap - XCamera - GHD - EFASS NG

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

Hi !

thomas_99 wrote:

Hi !

J.A.Romanov wrote:
ilankrt wrote:

Right now I have learned that there is a new version of the A330 compatible to XP11. JAR published a beta version of it. My question is if this version is also compatible with XP10.51?
(I am still waiting for a regular XP11 disk version and the compatibility of all JAR products with XP11)

This depend how old your purchase was. If fresh - will work right now. Else - need update your serial. Anyway, both jardesign.org and x-plane.org shop will be useful to get updated key, not depend where you get it first time.

But at the moment, neither x-plane.org shop nor jardesign.org have a choice to update the serial, just possible to buy
the full version...

best regards,

Thomas


Ok, i've found the update link :-)

best regards,

Thomas

9 (edited by laohu314 2016-12-17 03:13:06)

Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

Bought the upgrade to v2.0b1 and tested it on a flight KBOS-KEWR
Some observations:

1. Had a hard time with the NWS (see later) it would show movement in the cockpit but would not steer the a/c. I am attching a screenshot where NWS off error message came on in mid flight. Luckily, it resolved on landing
2. Some knobs look funny (see attachments)
3. I get an error message that Groundhandling is not loaded b ut in fact I installed Grandhandling Deluxe (see attachments)
4. I continue to have an issue with DES vs OP DES. In this flight DES behaved like OP DES and vice versa
5. FMS works great but no TC nor TOD indicated or announced (that might be because I deleted some waypoints from the STAR). Would like to know how to fix that.
6. The KEWR scenery was missing although it worked before with other a/c but probably an XP11 problem
7. The engines wouldn't shut off even though the in the cockpit they were off (see attachment)
8. XP11 crashed when I was doing a replay of the successfully completed flight (also XP11 problem)

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

Thanks for detailed info and logs. Will check all. As I understand right now - If DES/OPDES issue happen and no TOD was, may be you just not enter CRZ FL.

Please read a FAQ before you post a bug http://support.jardesign.org

11 (edited by iFred 2016-12-17 10:10:43)

Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

Ok, finally it´s time to test. Will come back with details later today!

Here we go:

- not able to switch ADIRS-Buttons or similar (applies also to Air-Condition-Sliders and No-Smoking/Seatbelt-Switches), but I can use the mousewheel to set the altitude for example.

- Groundhandling plugin works

No idea if I am too dumb to use X-Plane 11, or wherever the problem is smile.

12 (edited by Valen 2016-12-17 15:24:17)

Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

I have AWY/WPT Mismatch in that A332. I have the AIRAC 1613 install.

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

J.A.Romanov wrote:

Thanks for detailed info and logs. Will check all. As I understand right now - If DES/OPDES issue happen and no TOD was, may be you just not enter CRZ FL.

Thank you for your quick response!
It's entirely possible that I forgot the CRZ level. I'm a bit rusty on the A330 right now. However, I did have this issue (OP DES) in XP10 as well. The TOD was new so that may be about missing CRZ level. I'll do more tests of course. The scenery issue was due to my turning down the number of visible objects to minimal (to get better FPS). At KEWR that shows you tow trucks, and tow trucks only. LOL

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

I think it runs fine but i have problems to get the GlideSlope someone other has that problem?

15 (edited by laohu314 2016-12-17 23:13:06)

Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

No problem with glide slope. Mine issue is DES and OP DES which are still swapped somehow.
Did another KBOS KEWR flight.
So when the a/c is in OP DES it behaves like in DES and vice versa. This time I made sure CRZ level was set (see attached). I also still did not get TOD and NWS kicked out in mid flight again and I wasn't able to taxi to gate at KEWR. Last time it was good once I landed. Weird. I think this is a XP11 issue. It tends to assign the same function to multiple axes automatically. Going to try to squash this with a lua config file. Wish me luck...
The Cruise page on the lower ECAM also looks a little sparse but I don't know what it should look like. Overall a pleasant
experience.
Oh, and the Groundhandling message is still there of course.
One additional question: Are there any plans to incorporate some of the new FMC functions (like RNP NAV, GNS NAV, DME arcs etc.) which now also allow the a/c to do a fully VNAV managed final using GPS.

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Attachment icon EICAS CRZ.png 86.36 kb, 193 downloads since 2016-12-17 

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Attachment icon NWS.png 460.08 kb, 197 downloads since 2016-12-17 

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16 (edited by hawk4base 2016-12-18 01:24:51)

Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

Just done a testflight with real weather conditions with 15min updates

Route
KJFK/31L DCT RBV J230 COPES J75 MXE CLIPR1 KDCA/01

A few things i fund
1st FOB indicator stoped working during flight
2nd Engmasters not working on shutdown
3rd a graphic glitch on the all windows of the flightdeck witch made them brown out, after useing the disable rain option they where clear again.

Remarks

I changed the crz alt form FL380 to FL320 during climbe on the MCP and MCDU

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17 (edited by flightime56 2016-12-18 02:21:24)

Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

v.2.0b1 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS) - Windows10

No manipulators on the AP (autopilot) just text, knobs affected are Air pressure, SPD (half-moon right showing), HDG, ALT, V/S and F/O Air Pressure.

You can see right through the engines?

SD

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

Hi !

I have a SASL ERROR while entering a flight plan.

LOWI -> EDNY, Arrival at EDNY, temp flightplan insert -> no reaction.

There is a red text for 1/10 second, saying SASL error contact JAR with log :-)

best regards,

Thomas

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

(sorted out my UI-Problems - it turns out that fullscreen-mode has a problem, it´s a known bug of XP11 - switching to windowed mode fixed that)

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

I found 3 problems, tested on 3 flights..

1) Engine cutoff over "Low pressure cocks" or "Engine Master" not possible.

https://abload.de/thumb/a330_17abzea.png

2) After incorrect SID / STAR input, the FMC can hang up and the inputs can be displayed twice.
3) ILS glidescope does not work correctly, tested with different airports and beta users smile

Another problem I noticed is that, when I fly a leg over 5 hours with this Aircraft, the FPS goes down, it look like a buffer overflow. But attention, it can also be a pure X-Plane 11 problem, waiting for feedback from other users.

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Graka: Zotac 1080TI Artic Storm // Windows 10

21 (edited by laohu314 2016-12-19 17:21:57)

Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

Did another test KBOS to KEWR
1) Ground handling is resolved by re-installing the plugin without a license key.
2) FOB does not indicate properly in any display and does not count down when engines are running
3) Fuel Cross-Feed is also not working (neither auto nor manual)
4) Time to Waypoint is always 00.00 on the ND
5) Engines do not turn off
6) NWS problem also solved (was an axis set up issue with XP11pb2)
7) DES and OP DES still swapped
8) TOD still not indicated
9) 3D sound not working (see log.txt)

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

Thanks all your comments and reports! We wait next XP11 beta to test our beta-2. Hope (and test this with developers version) we will see some bug-fix inside simulator.

Please read a FAQ before you post a bug http://support.jardesign.org

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

A great thread  - Happy Christmas to you JAR + Beta testers! Looking forward to flying the A330-200 for XP11 in 2017!

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

J.A.Romanov wrote:

Thanks all your comments and reports! We wait next XP11 beta to test our beta-2. Hope (and test this with developers version) we will see some bug-fix inside simulator.

Hi Eugene, Trying to activate..sent a ticket
Thanks a ton!
Luigi

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

So.. Just install XP11 pb3. No old my code, no my reworked code not work well with pb3. Reworked code work well now with pb2. With pb3 - not work. I dont know exactly what a reason, but seems like after passing next point, XPLMGetDestinationFMSEntry back me to prev point. Seems like when i set XPLMSetDestinationFMSEntry instant FMS not mark prev points as "passed". But this is my guess only. My fact - not work. So, XP11 is megabuggy now.

The main issue - instant FMS not work correct with actual waypoint. So, just report this to Ben and Phillip. Wait..

Please read a FAQ before you post a bug http://support.jardesign.org