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Is it possible to install the new version in XP10 ?

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Gradl wrote:

Is it possible to install the new version in XP10 ?

No, last XP10 version is 2.7r1.

Please read a FAQ before you post a bug http://support.jardesign.org

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staffguy1 wrote:

do we know when R2 is going to be published to the site

An answer to this question would be appreciated too.

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Greyman wrote:
staffguy1 wrote:

do we know when R2 is going to be published to the site

An answer to this question would be appreciated too.

Indeed. Is version out? Forgot to upload link? Slipped news too early?

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hey guys I am using Saitek panels but every night my panels are blank the back light on them is off for the nd and everything I hit the panel switch but nothing happens anyone know a fix

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So I guess the link to the new download is still a link to the old. Oh well, we wait!! JAR you do confuse us!!

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107 (edited by lukaniko 2017-08-16 13:22:04)

Re: JD320 Airliner ver 3.2 r1,r2 WIN/MAC 64 bit (X-Plane 11)

thomas_99 wrote:

Hi !

I also have some problems loading the flight plan.

I generated a flight plan with SimBrief:

EDDL SID KUMI3Z KUMIK Y854 BOMBI T721 SUL T732 GARMO GARM1P STAR EDNY

Then I loaded the CO-Route with "EDDLEDNY". Result: ICAO F-PLN READING OK

Switched to F-PLAN page in MCDU.

No flight plan visible. Just "EDDL (T/C)  (T/D) (CROSS) (RED250) (LIM) (DECEL) (SPD220) EDNY"

Maybe someone can try this....

best regards...


Hello!

I have the same problem and i have notice that only some flight plans are loaded without apparent reason.

This file are read correctly:
filename : LIMCLICJ.txt
content : LIMC LAGEN GIANO LICJ

This are loaded but no flight plans appear on the FMS :

filename : LICJLIMC01.txt
content : LICJ GIANO ELB IDONA VOG LIMC

Also i have the SASL error message in red, this appear only for a fraction of second.

In addition, writing with the mouse is very uncomfortable. Please give the chams to write with the computer keyboard.

My OS is Windows 10 and my friend have the same problem with W7.

Best regards , Luca.

P.S.

This is the content of the tmpplan.txt file found in the FlightPlans folder:

1 LICJ pointtype=APT routepart=APT_DEP show_nom=1 next_act=1 lat=+038.181944 lon=+013.099444 alt_min=65 alt_max=65 cst_min= cst_max= prof=0 eutc=0 efob=0 part= dist=0 brg=0 awy= freq= crs= pass=0
2 DISC pointtype=DISC routepart= show_nom=2 next_act=2 lat=+038.181944 lon=+013.099444 alt_min=nil alt_max=nil cst_min= cst_max= prof=0 eutc=0 efob=0 part= dist=0.001 brg=358 awy=DIR freq= crs= pass=0
3 LIMC pointtype=APT routepart=APT_ARR show_nom=3 next_act=3 lat=+045.630000 lon=+008.723056 alt_min=768 alt_max=768 cst_min= cst_max= prof=0 eutc=0 efob=0 part= dist=487.548 brg=336 awy=DIR freq= crs= pass=0
DIST=487.549

Maybe can help to solve the problem.

MAYBE I HAVE SOLVED

I have tryed to generate the flight plans file from simbrief:

filename : MPTOMMUN.txt

content : MPTO SID REMAL A574 TBG UA321 MORLI UA321 SPP UA552 FALLA UA552 PZA UR899 KITIS UR899 CTM UJ26 MID UJ18 AVATA STAR MMUN

Appear the problem was the missing SID and STAR in the flight plan.

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lukaniko wrote:

This are loaded but no flight plans appear on the FMS :

filename : LICJLIMC01.txt
content : LICJ GIANO ELB IDONA VOG LIMC

...

Appear the problem was the missing SID and STAR in the flight plan.

That's right.
Because this route works just fine:
LICJ SID GIANO ELB IDONA VOG STAR LIMC

It's useful to read previous messages sometimes smile

http://jardesign.org/forum/viewtopic.ph … 142#p18142

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Re: JD320 Airliner ver 3.2 r1,r2 WIN/MAC 64 bit (X-Plane 11)

As said in numerous post before, exiting replay when flying the Airbus A320 will set the thrust to max and the plain just takes off like a rocket.

I have made a small video (+2 minutes) that shows the issue:

https://youtu.be/x1X_XZjH-64

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Hey guys,

Long time JD A320 "pilot" here. Had to format my PC recently and now, after activating the aircraft, none of the buttons are clickable. The switches and knobs do work, but none of the buttons.

Before activating, they are clickable though.

XP 11.05r1 + JDa320 3.2r1

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

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Its a very beautiful aircraft. No doubt on that. But it needs FBW fix so badly. The plane falls like a rock during landing, no matter how many times and how hard i have tried i can't get the aircraft down below -178 fpm. Whereas on FSLabs and Zibo's 737 i can land at -43 fpm. Please do something on this as the most important aspect of this beautiful aircraft depend on its handling.

Thanks

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rcavinash123 wrote:

Its a very beautiful aircraft. No doubt on that. But it needs FBW fix so badly. The plane falls like a rock during landing, no matter how many times and how hard i have tried i can't get the aircraft down below -178 fpm. Whereas on FSLabs and Zibo's 737 i can land at -43 fpm. Please do something on this as the most important aspect of this beautiful aircraft depend on its handling.

Thanks

It seem that you have no idea about using this aircraft in general and landing in particular ....
sure aircraft is faulty ... Captain you must sit on the school bench and learn to fly.

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I have been flying simulators since FS98. My first airbus was airsimmer A320. Im not sure if you have heard about them.

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Re: JD320 Airliner ver 3.2 r1,r2 WIN/MAC 64 bit (X-Plane 11)

rcavinash123 wrote:

I have been flying simulators since FS98. My first airbus was airsimmer A320. Im not sure if you have heard about them.

Designer have improved a bit the Aircrafts since 1998 ...

You give    -178 fpm as vertical speed, so with a 3% glide slope , according to you what should be the Aircraft speed ...for landing ?

jcdp

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The Average landing speed for an A320 is 130 to 140 kt. Again it depends on the landing weight of the aircraft. I believe for a 3% Slope the speed should be around 134kts.

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rcavinash123 wrote:

The Average landing speed for an A320 is 130 to 140 kt. Again it depends on the landing weight of the aircraft. I believe for a 3% Slope the speed should be around 134kts.

So what is the problem? We always landing safe (ILS or manually) around this speed ....

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117 (edited by jcdp 2017-08-19 08:04:39)

Re: JD320 Airliner ver 3.2 r1,r2 WIN/MAC 64 bit (X-Plane 11)

rcavinash123 wrote:

The Average landing speed for an A320 is 130 to 140 kt. Again it depends on the landing weight of the aircraft. I believe for a 3% Slope the speed should be around 134kts.

you have not done the requested calculation ...

So with your above data for landing speed what would be vertical speed for a 3% glide slope ?

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In the news of the A320neo is indicated: please update JD320 ver. 3.2 r2
The link always refers to version 3.2. r1

Post's attachments

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I'm starting to think that r1 is the latest version and that reference to r2 was just a typo

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leghorn wrote:

I find the JAR320 really underpowered. Numbers from TOPCAT and what i get while taking off differ by a huge margin. I often can barely lift off by the end of the runway. Are you planing to correct engine thrust?

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Maybe check the calibration of your throttles, as I never have any problems getting it off the ground. 

Also, are you using flex power to TOGA?

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Greyman wrote:

Maybe check the calibration of your throttles, as I never have any problems getting it off the ground. 

Also, are you using flex power to TOGA?

Calibration is fine. I'm a cockpit builder and i take much care of those things smile. I'm always flexing to TOPCAT values. It's spot-on with FSLabs but with the JAR 320 i have 25-40% longer take-off runs and considerably lower initial climb gradient. In other words: numbers are off and V1 happens way after my ASDR margin.

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leghorn wrote:
Greyman wrote:

Maybe check the calibration of your throttles, as I never have any problems getting it off the ground. 

Also, are you using flex power to TOGA?

Calibration is fine. I'm a cockpit builder and i take much care of those things smile. I'm always flexing to TOPCAT values. It's spot-on with FSLabs but with the JAR 320 i have 25-40% longer take-off runs and considerably lower initial climb gradient. In other words: numbers are off and V1 happens way after my ASDR margin.

It is obviously that every takeoff is different, depending of varying factors concerning aircraft and the environment. QNH and field elevation are some of the factors affecting performance, but there are others such as surface condition (wet, slippery, contaminated etc.), engine bleed extraction (are we running the packs off the engines or using anti-icing?) and aircraft C of G. As good as they are simulated the more near real is the simulated take-off situation. It is also obviously that the more correct simulated data in one or another simulation program will bring better results. Now we don't intend to go here into a discussion about who is who. If you think that FSLabs is the better one - stay with it. Nobody force you to use JAR A320...

Speaking for myself I made some measurements about runway length needed for takeoff in relationship to various takeoffs with JAR A320 under different circumstances and the numbers fits the reality.

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MichaelMaar wrote:

As said in numerous post before, exiting replay when flying the Airbus A320 will set the thrust to max and the plain just takes off like a rocket.

I have made a small video (+2 minutes) that shows the issue:

https://youtu.be/x1X_XZjH-64

1.Just disable autothrottle before entering replay mode.
2.If you disable autothrottle after coming back from replay mode you will see the engines will come back to idle.

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ilankrt wrote:
leghorn wrote:
Greyman wrote:

Maybe check the calibration of your throttles, as I never have any problems getting it off the ground. 

Also, are you using flex power to TOGA?

Calibration is fine. I'm a cockpit builder and i take much care of those things smile. I'm always flexing to TOPCAT values. It's spot-on with FSLabs but with the JAR 320 i have 25-40% longer take-off runs and considerably lower initial climb gradient. In other words: numbers are off and V1 happens way after my ASDR margin.

It is obviously that every takeoff is different, depending of varying factors concerning aircraft and the environment. QNH and field elevation are some of the factors affecting performance, but there are others such as surface condition (wet, slippery, contaminated etc.), engine bleed extraction (are we running the packs off the engines or using anti-icing?) and aircraft C of G. As good as they are simulated the more near real is the simulated take-off situation. It is also obviously that the more correct simulated data in one or another simulation program will bring better results. Now we don't intend to go here into a discussion about who is who. If you think that FSLabs is the better one - stay with it. Nobody force you to use JAR A320...

Speaking for myself I made some measurements about runway length needed for takeoff in relationship to various takeoffs with JAR A320 under different circumstances and the numbers fits the reality.

Very weird way of pushing me away... Of course no body forces me to use FSLabs. What if i actually want JAR to be better? Then what? I know very well what flexing is and how it's influenced by the mentioned above conditions, hence my use of TOPCAT. I don't speak of "who is who", i was just asking if fixing the thrust is planned because the numbers do not "fit reality". They actually never will because every engine is slightly different. However, i'm not talking about 1, 2 or even 50m margin differences. I'm experiencing a 400-600m difference in calculated V1 and JAR. It's serious and i believe some attention needs to be addressed. Using legit A320 flex t/o graphs give me the same same discrepancies. Those are not speeds invented by me. I'm using either graphs or TOPCAT with the current TOW, TORA and weather taken in the calculations. Is it really so hard to believe that JAR 320 might be underpowered?