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Draco wrote:

GPS 26 I think. I think the aircraft hit a waypoint too late, as it always does (never follows the green line), and then tried hitting the approach mode waypoint about half a NM behind it, but missed it for some reason. I guess you are right - directing to the waypoint after that was, quite literally, a stab in the dark, but at the same time, it was kind of difficult to navigate during the dark.

I observed this as well. Especially for narrow turns, not following the green line often results in undesired flight tracks. For normal approaches, this is usually no problem or can easily be corrected using DIR. For difficult or dangerous approaches, like those to LOWI, I do manual corrections in order to ensure that the plane exactly follows the procedure described in the charts. This allows approaches with high mountains all around even during night time wink

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Son_of_Jorel wrote:

On the A320, there is no shine and reflection on the fuselage like it should be. The A330 has lots of shine. Anybody notices this? Am I doing something wrong or is there a bug regarding this?
Finally, the nav lights do not reflect on the ground anymore and it would be nice to have pilots showing in the cockpit from external view.

Thanks

I've no comparison to the A330, but for me, the shining and reflections look very realistic. So I wouldn't say that there should be more of them. I will check the reflections of the nav lights the next time I'm flying.

I totally agree, that it would be nice the see the pilots from the outside. In addition, a copilot would be nice as well.

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Another questions: Is the TILT knob of the WXR doingwhat its label suggests, or does it just change the brightness of the WXR on the NAV display?

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Vertical807 wrote:

Has anyone got a glitch where after disconnecting AP on landing, the aircraft seems to levy up and down? I don't know if it might just be me, but here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H9mGuw … e=youtu.be

Greetings all,
I think this is a case of good ole pilot induced oscillation. I believe it has to do with the aircraft being a tad too sensitive. I'm a real world pilot, but I don't fly airbuses. I look at this issue with pilot experience and aircraft knowledge. I've flown heavy, medium and light jets giving me a good feel of flight controls across the range. In general, jets have a heavy control feel for purpose. 3000 PSI available to flight control surfaces makes a serious recipe for disaster. To prevent over controlling or damaging aircraft, artificial feel systems, springs and cartridges were added in the flight controls to simulate air loads on the flight controls. Though aircraft are sensitive and responsive, the resistance from the feel systems make the yoke feel rigid and requires some force for inputs. Fly by wire introduces a different aspect, but the same is implemented through flight computers. For example, the C-17 in the USAF. Like most jets, slower speed regimes require more control input. At higher speeds, less control input is required due to the higher air loads. During slow flight, control authority was adequate. During air refueling, the control was too sensitive at air refueling speeds. I've watched a few C-17s take gas when I flew kC-10s. The aircraft would constantly oscillate in the pitch and roll axis. The flight controls and spoilers would constantly flutter as the receiver tried to manage the sensitivity while approaching and maintaining the contact position. A flight computer air refueling mode was added to reduce sensitivity during refueling. After the mode, refueling was significantly easier and it was noticeable from the rear end of the tanker.

Getting to the JAR airbus. The real airbus seems to have a less sensitive system in regard to JAR. This can be seen by watching the side stick in cockpit videos. In smooth air, you can see large inputs, but small response from the aircraft. During bumpy approaches, you will at times see full side stick input as the pilot works to keep a stable platform on approach. Even in the flare, you see a lot of aft position for a maneuver that only takes a couple of degrees. You will see that the real aircraft is a little sluggish, purposely so. Just imagine if an aircraft was this sensitive, would be very uncomfortable for passengers. Trust me, I know from years of teaching guys how to air refuel. New guys tend to PIO alot until they become comfortable.

In xplane 10, you could adjust the sensitivity, but you had to change it back when flying other aircraft. In xplane 11, adjustments don't seem to have an effect.

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Re: JD320 Airliner ver 3.1r1,r2 WIN/MAC 64 bit (X-Plane 11)

TEST FLIGHT: LPPR - LPPT, X-Life A320 All last versions

1. After a turn (under FL100 and 250kt) aircraft not on green route
2. Climb to TC aircraft is not reaching altitude at this point (much later)
3. ATC after TC: there is no CENTER button for arrival (instead cll for TOD)

4 X-Plane crash (log.txt)

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There is a lot going on in your log. One thing I saw is that you use Airport-Navigator. I have always had problems using this plugin together with X-Life so I never do. Also, SoundMaxx seems to have a problem. And there were at least a couple of incidents with downloading METARs. Maybe someone can figure out the issues by examining your OSX crash log.
For now, I would recommend removing Airport-Navigator and SoundMaxx. I use BSS sounds with the busses and it is brilliant.

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laohu314 wrote:

There is a lot going on in your log. One thing I saw is that you use Airport-Navigator. I have always had problems using this plugin together with X-Life so I never do. Also, SoundMaxx seems to have a problem. And there were at least a couple of incidents with downloading METARs. Maybe someone can figure out the issues by examining your OSX crash log.
For now, I would recommend removing Airport-Navigator and SoundMaxx. I use BSS sounds with the busses and it is brilliant.

Thanks  for advice !

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Hello guys. Recently bought xp11 and as I have done in xp10 I modified the gear deflections of a320, so that they're a bit more compressed. However, I found that it crashed SASL after I edited the plane in planemaker. Is there anyone with similar problem after editing the plane in pm? Thanks

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matevz.kramar wrote:

Hello guys. Recently bought xp11 and as I have done in xp10 I modified the gear deflections of a320, so that they're a bit more compressed. However, I found that it crashed SASL after I edited the plane in planemaker. Is there anyone with similar problem after editing the plane in pm? Thanks

I'm not 100% sure, but SASL controls the license system. And it might have a checksum system that prevent you from cracking the code of the plane. And by this when you open the plane in planemaker and save a new version, SASL thinks that it is compromised.

But again, I'm not 100% sure.

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MichaelMaar wrote:
matevz.kramar wrote:

Hello guys. Recently bought xp11 and as I have done in xp10 I modified the gear deflections of a320, so that they're a bit more compressed. However, I found that it crashed SASL after I edited the plane in planemaker. Is there anyone with similar problem after editing the plane in pm? Thanks

I'm not 100% sure, but SASL controls the license system. And it might have a checksum system that prevent you from cracking the code of the plane. And by this when you open the plane in planemaker and save a new version, SASL thinks that it is compromised.

But again, I'm not 100% sure.

Oh... So from this can I assume that there is no way of changing anything in planemaker? That's a pity

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Re: JD320 Airliner ver 3.1r1,r2 WIN/MAC 64 bit (X-Plane 11)

Since the last A320 version I cannot change the Captain view position in PlanMaker either if I simple "save" .acf file or "save as". I saw that every time I get also a second .acf≈ file......
Maybe JAR can tell us how to save changes.

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I believe this has to do with copy protection. The aircraft is proprietary and thus is protected from unauthorized changes. If you want change it you need to convince JAR to do it.

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Re: JD320 Airliner ver 3.1r1,r2 WIN/MAC 64 bit (X-Plane 11)

I think landing gear compression is too low. I mean now the plane is even, unlike v2.7, but it's still to high to my eye. Or maybe it's the fixed fairing that's too high... Who knows. Enclosing pictures so you can hopefully see what I'm about. Comparing sim to real main landing gear.
http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/39/t/p1bie9jcf3tuo1j66n4d15vln5e3.pnghttp://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/39/t/p1bie9jcf31j3s4d12volpkd3q4.jpg

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And to make sure, I did contact Jar support on this, and have been explained by dron that they somehow can't achieve this. I just don't know why?

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Isn't the aircraft's weight a variable in the height of the landing gear?  If, as one would expect, it is, how do you know that the real plane has the same gross weight as the simulated aircraft?

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Greyman wrote:

Isn't the aircraft's weight a variable in the height of the landing gear?  If, as one would expect, it is, how do you know that the real plane has the same gross weight as the simulated aircraft?

I thought you'd say that. I did try to load the plane fully and couldn't get close to it.

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matevz.kramar wrote:

I think landing gear compression is too low.

Sure, it is the biggest problem of this plane.
Are you even serious?

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Excuse me? Do I not have the right to adress problems which I might notice through time? Come on, be mature for Christ sake...

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matevz.kramar wrote:

Excuse me? Do I not have the right to adress problems which I might notice through time? Come on, be mature for Christ sake...

You've every right to report even tiny issues you've found of course. All he is saying is, that - given all the really serious issues this plane has - this one falls into the very bottom of the list of problems. No offense!

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Sure. Just the way dimkzr said that was a bit arrogant.

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matevz.kramar wrote:

Excuse me? Do I not have the right to adress problems which I might notice through time? Come on, be mature for Christ sake...

I didn't mean to offend you personally, and sorry for that. It just that we can't get even the vital aircraft systems to function as they should, let alone purely cosmetic stuff.

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matevz.kramar wrote:

I think landing gear compression is too low. I mean now the plane is even, unlike v2.7, but it's still to high to my eye. Or maybe it's the fixed fairing that's too high... Who knows. Enclosing pictures so you can hopefully see what I'm about. Comparing sim to real main landing gear.
http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/39/t/p1bie9jcf3tuo1j66n4d15vln5e3.pnghttp://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/39/t/p1bie9jcf31j3s4d12volpkd3q4.jpg

Comparing these 2 pictures, I don't see any differences

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enrigolan79 wrote:
matevz.kramar wrote:

I think landing gear compression is too low. I mean now the plane is even, unlike v2.7, but it's still to high to my eye. Or maybe it's the fixed fairing that's too high... Who knows. Enclosing pictures so you can hopefully see what I'm about. Comparing sim to real main landing gear.
http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/39/t/p1bie9jcf3tuo1j66n4d15vln5e3.pnghttp://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/39/t/p1bie9jcf31j3s4d12volpkd3q4.jpg

Comparing these 2 pictures, I don't see any differences

He is talking about the chrome on the strut between the wheels. For example, on the jets I fly there is a variation between 3 and 5 inches of chrome showing on the strut during the walk around. This equates to 3 inches at max takeoff weight and 5 inches empty. 3 to 5 inches indicates properly serviced struts. The poster is saying that the JAR strut is showing too much chrome(strut extension).

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i have this version of a320.There is a problem with navigation. The aircraft does not faithfully follow the route from the flight plan.

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i thought that the right hand image was the real aircraft.  Damn these sims are good smile