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LOHU314,

1. The main goal of XL must be to include all airports sceneries, but the way to get their is not simple. Not every user that like to fly in some specific area knows or has technical skills to prepare airports as needed for XL.  I am one of them... So this will be done successive, as done with the user made airports sceneries. In short it's a factor of time.

2. We as test pilots are dealing with the development of XL testing it on every beta step. Airport reports are only byproduct. So we can limit ourselves to fly to prepared airports.

3. Personally I am using for a long time apilotx w2xp v.3 without any problem except the lost of some FPS (depending on computer graphic power). w2xp is working also frictionless with XL. Mesh v.3 and w2xl are as far as I see to a large extent qualitative equal....

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502 (edited by cmckjodi 2016-05-18 11:36:20)

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captbullett wrote:
laohu314 wrote:
ilankrt wrote:

Note
It was said many times in this thread, but it must said again and clear: X-Life will work only on prepared airports !

1. This airports are on the JAR map (I hope this map will be permanently widened)
2. Nearly half of this airports are payware (mostly not cheap at all, but 100% worth there money).  Same airport downloaded free from X-Plane will work rarely and not optimal. ( I made the experience that only 1/10 of them can be used).
3. Even some of the prepared airports have sometimes some defects that must be corrected.
4. Most importend is the fact that we can in X-Plane for the first time simulate flights in an AI environment  (World traffic is not an alternative) with both air and ground traffic and under ATC.

I would like to suggest that as beta test pilot you should use for the present moment only prepared airports. They are all great sceneries and you can have enough variety and different experiences using them. (that should also reduce the repeated questions und complains concerning other airports)


I agree with you broadly for beta testing but I would like some things addressed, now the we have a commercial release of X-Life.
As a user, though, like quite a few other pilots, I would want to be able to make our own set of airports usable with X-Life and I believe that following the rules meticulously goes a long way.
If there are additional scenery problems (like Mesh v3 being incompatible) we need someone (Eugeny?) to describe exactly why that is so that remedial action can be taken and sceneries can be prepare/modified to make them compatible. X-Life is too good to be restricted to airports provided by just a couple of developers. So far, all of the airports for which I made ATC traffic routes worked very well with XL (KBOS was by far the hardest!) so I wouldn't want to discourage anyone from trying. It can be done!
Just, as you say, complaining about issues doesn't help but providing the necessary data to figure out what's wrong should be valuable to improve the product.
I have been there too, not so long ago, frustrated and almost ready to give up but Eugeny really showed me how to do it and I went away very encouraged.


Good day,
There is no one really complaining as I do answer many of the tech questions and if, you follow the wrong people on the  feed you can get lost and it is leading you and other people the wrong way.
Nevertheless, this is my point of view after working on the X-Life project since the start of the project.

Now as for the Mesh v3 scenery I can tell you that the Mesh v3 scenery by its self is very hard on the GPU, what do I mean the FPS is taxed already by the Mesh v3 scenery where you can get a FPS drop. Then you want to add the X-Life to the mix well it is just too much going on you have too choose what flavor you want to use at this point is the Meshv3 more important to you or is X-Life as, you computer can only handle so much. Now if there is a change down the road and code is written to fix the way the Meshv3 is loaded then it might work but I am thinking it's the layers of the scenery load that is at issue.

The team of beta tester from the original testing team has worked very hard to make this the best Plugin along with JAR so,
for the new members please look at the other posts and see how the team does things we already have a system and we work well together there is never complaining so thank-you Beta Team.
Brian
captbullett

I agree thank you Brian and Beta Team. As a user of X-Life it's nice if you can use airports that you want to use and have the ability to set them up your own way providing you follow the guidelines. I know I posted about KMIA not working properly, but my goal was not to complain but only to provide feedback to the beta team and I received some very good suggestions. I have several airports up and running perfectly that are not on the approved list so yes it can be done. If one is a new user then yes stick with the approved airports to get started. Everyone must understand including myself that this product is still under development and not everything is going to be perfect. But in time I think it will be. I can't possibly imagine all the time and effort it's taken to get X-Life this far. JAR is doing a fantastic job! It's great to fly into airports with realistic traffic and planes! Happy pilot here:) cmck

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Is it possible to get rid of the original aircraft and only have the blue bell ones working?

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Hi All. I will ask my question again. Trying to create a flight plan from CYVR to KPDX. don't know how to choose an alternative airport. when you select any of the nearby airports gives an error wrong ICAO alternate airport. what to do? thanks in advance.

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ryangregory00 wrote:

Is it possible to get rid of the original aircraft and only have the blue bell ones working?

Good day we are converting some airports to have non-Static aircraft you need to look for the airports that have the extra file for this and you can do this yourself once you learn how to.
this file must go higher in the .int file than your airport of the same kind so, for example, KMIA has a non-static file, it has to go above the KMIA airport file.

captbullett

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priorat001 wrote:

Hi All. I will ask my question again. Trying to create a flight plan from CYVR to KPDX. don't know how to choose an alternative airport. when you select any of the nearby airports gives an error wrong ICAO alternate airport. what to do? thanks in advance.


Good day, alt. airport can Be KPDX...
captbullett

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captbullett wrote:
priorat001 wrote:

Hi All. I will ask my question again. Trying to create a flight plan from CYVR to KPDX. don't know how to choose an alternative airport. when you select any of the nearby airports gives an error wrong ICAO alternate airport. what to do? thanks in advance.


Good day, alt. airport can Be KPDX...
captbullett

Hi. I tried. but it still gives this error.((((
wrong icao alternate airport

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priorat001 wrote:

Hi All. I will ask my question again. Trying to create a flight plan from CYVR to KPDX. don't know how to choose an alternative airport. when you select any of the nearby airports gives an error wrong ICAO alternate airport. what to do? thanks in advance.

Try  as alternative airport CYVR ...

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509 (edited by captbullett 2016-05-18 15:49:57)

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priorat001 wrote:
captbullett wrote:
priorat001 wrote:

Hi All. I will ask my question again. Trying to create a flight plan from CYVR to KPDX. don't know how to choose an alternative airport. when you select any of the nearby airports gives an error wrong ICAO alternate airport. what to do? thanks in advance.


Good day, alt. airport can Be KPDX...
captbullett

Hi. I tried. but it still gives this error.((((
wrong icao alternate airport


Good day,
and did you use Capital letters when typing the ICAO,  try KSEA you should not use the airport that you are departing from since, you will be a 100nm down range before you know it and this is my point if you listen to the wrong people like ilankrt he will only lead you down the wrong path.
captbullett

510 (edited by ilankrt 2016-05-18 15:58:42)

Re: X-Life ver 1.0 (rc1, r1, ++)

Test flight KMCO - KATL
X-Plane, XL, A330 last version
Using iMac27 Mavericks

No crash

But! During approach at 1000 ft, I disabled AP as I used to do for manually landing. This time the A330 went into stall. I captured this situation in a short video. It can be seen that rather ailerons nor elevators changed position during the stall   a n d  also after I pushed the yoke hard forward. Mostly wired was the position of the rudder as seen on my video, although the aircraft stayed in straight position to RWY...

https://youtu.be/EkL4E_1zvqU

Beside this occurrence XL works fine with a lot of air and ground traffic.
Same repeated problem at clearing RWY, as GROUND told me again and again that aircraft is still on RWY. Brcause of that I couldn't get information about parking lot and order the FM car.......

KATL is an imposing big airport. XL created a busy traffic frequency on all 4 hubs - great!

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511 (edited by captbullett 2016-05-18 16:08:03)

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Good day,

NOTICE THE GOV. HAS ISSUED A WARNING TO ALL JAR AS IN JAVA USERS THAT IT IS A SECURITY RISK TO USE JAR AT THIS TIME AND EVEN THE HOMELAND SECURITY AGENCY HAS POSTED THAT UNTIL TUESDAY MAY 24 YOU SHOUD DISABLE ALL JAR PRODUCT IN YOUR BROWSER !

and I am not yelling I want caps very important notice.

captbullett

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captbullett wrote:
priorat001 wrote:
captbullett wrote:

Good day, alt. airport can Be KPDX...
captbullett

Hi. I tried. but it still gives this error.((((
wrong icao alternate airport


Good day,
and did you use Capital letters when typing the ICAO,  try KSEA you should not use the airport that you are departing from since, you will be a 100nm down range before you know it and this is my point if you listen to the wrong people like ilankrt he will only lead you down the wrong path.
captbullett

I tryed KSEA too. But its still wrong. I dont know waht i will doing

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priorat001 wrote:
captbullett wrote:
priorat001 wrote:

Hi. I tried. but it still gives this error.((((
wrong icao alternate airport


Good day,
and did you use Capital letters when typing the ICAO,  try KSEA you should not use the airport that you are departing from since, you will be a 100nm down range before you know it and this is my point if you listen to the wrong people like ilankrt he will only lead you down the wrong path.
captbullett

I tryed KSEA too. But its still wrong. I dont know waht i will doing

Please send log.txt and bbox.txt  which is in the JAR Aircraft File if you are using the JAR aircraft.
this is a process and we will work through this.
Brian

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Suggestion:  Create a Wiki for X-Life.  You have a lot of people willing to help with technical support, and airport layouts, but a single forum thread sucks for coordinating and finding information.

Once there is a Wiki page on a particular airport (e.g. which payware or freeware scenery is required, any modifications the users can/should make) - the map could link to it.

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yimmy149 wrote:

Suggestion:  Create a Wiki for X-Life.  You have a lot of people willing to help with technical support, and airport layouts, but a single forum thread sucks for coordinating and finding information.

Once there is a Wiki page on a particular airport (e.g. which payware or freeware scenery is required, any modifications the users can/should make) - the map could link to it.

Good day,

NO! this is for Beta testing only and we get are tech support here for X-Life.
captbullett

516 (edited by captbullett 2016-05-18 18:04:00)

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yimmy149 wrote:

Suggestion:  Create a Wiki for X-Life.  You have a lot of people willing to help with technical support, and airport layouts, but a single forum thread sucks for coordinating and finding information.

Once there is a Wiki page on a particular airport (e.g. which payware or freeware scenery is required, any modifications the users can/should make) - the map could link to it.

Good day,
this is for Beta testing this is where we get are tech support we are not like regular support this is testing product !
captbullett

x-life ready airports;

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mi … tAA_7MfME4

Ps, all you have to do is ask for help here and the Beta team will be more than happy to help you.
Also you must post a log.txt and bbox.txt which is in the JAR aircraft folder in the Aircraft folder if you are using the JAR aircraft this way, we can  better help you and also help you faster.
captbullett

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Beta 7 posted:

If you have installed beta 5 or 6, you may replace only .xpl files

What New:

+ Arrival stack improve
+ Time indication improve
+ Some kind of CTD fixed
+ 250/10000 ATC control add

So.. we done all big improvements what was planned for 1.1
Now, we will test beta for stable and if so - 1.1r1 will published as release.

Next development will continue under 1.2 - this will be parallel work.

Thanks for all your reports. This help a lot!

Please read a FAQ before you post a bug http://support.jardesign.org

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Good day,
thank-you will replace only .xpl files and continue testing
Brian

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captbullett wrote:
priorat001 wrote:
captbullett wrote:

Good day,
and did you use Capital letters when typing the ICAO,  try KSEA you should not use the airport that you are departing from since, you will be a 100nm down range before you know it and this is my point if you listen to the wrong people like ilankrt he will only lead you down the wrong path.
captbullett

I tryed KSEA too. But its still wrong. I dont know waht i will doing

Please send log.txt and bbox.txt  which is in the JAR Aircraft File if you are using the JAR aircraft.
this is a process and we will work through this.
Brian

Which log.txt?.....and i didnt use JAR Airctaft.

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Hi,
Is there a way to get rid of the default x life planes such as the American west 737 and prop planes? I installed the blue bell library but the default planes tend to run more.

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URSS-URRR after permission for taxiing CTD log and dump file

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ryangregory00 wrote:

Hi,
Is there a way to get rid of the default x life planes such as the American west 737 and prop planes? I installed the blue bell library but the default planes tend to run more.

Good day,
Have you done the latest up-date and I am thinking if you have BlueBell installed right then you are seeing BB aircraft but with out a log.txt I can't tell and a log.txt is mandatory here.

thank-you for your help,
captbullett

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Metallist wrote:

URSS-URRR after permission for taxiing CTD log and dump file


good day
you need to up date and only replace the  .xpl  files ...
Brian

524 (edited by Metallist 2016-05-18 19:21:38)

Re: X-Life ver 1.0 (rc1, r1, ++)

captbullett wrote:
Metallist wrote:

URSS-URRR after permission for taxiing CTD log and dump file


good day
you need to up date and only replace the  .xpl  files ...
Brian

Thank you, just now after restart x-plane saw the update. Updated, I will try.))

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ryangregory00 wrote:

Hi,
Is there a way to get rid of the default x life planes such as the American west 737 and prop planes? I installed the blue bell library but the default planes tend to run more.

May Use One library OR another. Not Both in the same time.

Please read a FAQ before you post a bug http://support.jardesign.org