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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

Yoss wrote:
jcdp wrote:

Hi
I tried to reproduce your flight and EFASS gave a different route ...but the result is the same as for you ...the coroute is not recognized ...and I got the same message as you .

So, hope somebody else can have an explanation .
Sorry

jcdp
PS: generated FP from EFASS on my side (added 1 in the name)

Hi!
Thanks for coming back so soon. I expected that it won't work for you smile

This what bothers me most, that no one explains how could we get this working. Currently I cannot find ANY solution to make the FMC loading flight plans and it seems there is no way to save the route you entered manually. I think this would be a very basic feature, it is all about input, nothing else. Not a rocket science and it has nothing to do with the "realness" of the plane.
Btw, the spoiler (speedbrake) problem now became permanent. After takeoff, when I try, it works, but a few hours of flying later it won't work anymore and in addition neither the managed descent is working well, the plane easily gets to overspeed sad

Hi

I must say that I am surprised because the flight plan from KJFK to Iceland is , for me, the only one which is not recognized ...
I have just made a flight from KJFK to KORD without any trouble ... Spoilers working properly (they can be seen moving)...no overspeed ...
So let's wait for next update .

jcdp

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

jcdp wrote:

Hi
I must say that I am surprised because the flight plan from KJFK to Iceland is , for me, the only one which is not recognized ...
I have just made a flight from KJFK to KORD without any trouble ... Spoilers working properly (they can be seen moving)...no overspeed ...
So let's wait for next update .
jcdp

Problems with spoilers come only during long haul flights. The problem with flightplans seems very strange to me as well. They seem ok if I check them with different editor softwares like notepad++, but still it simply does not accept it. Now I tried to load a flightplan that came with the aircraft (UUDDEDDM) and it could not load it. So the problem is with the FMC, not with the flight plan. This problem is similar with a320neo as well. The only difference is that it's FMC returns with ICAO F-PLN READING OK which would mean it successfully loaded the plan, but not, it reads only probably the half of the plan, then there is a discontinuity and then the DEST airport. With 330 it looks the same, it reads a part of the flightplan, but it returns with error msg and a320 does not. Strange that noone complains about these issues, nobody uses the FMC for planning a flight??

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

jcdp wrote:

Hi
I must say that I am surprised because the flight plan from KJFK to Iceland is , for me, the only one which is not recognized ...
I have just made a flight from KJFK to KORD without any trouble ... Spoilers working properly (they can be seen moving)...no overspeed ...
So let's wait for next update .
jcdp

Can you send that flightplan over to me, I would give it a try whether if I can load it or not. Thanks.

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

Try:

KJFK SID PUT J42 BOS J55 ENE J573 EBONY N497C RIKAL NATT PIKIL DCT NINEX UN593 BAMRA UN584 SUM UP612 PEPIN P612 FLS N623 VALDI G3 NASBU STAR BIKF





Yoss wrote:
jcdp wrote:

Hi
I tried to reproduce your flight and EFASS gave a different route ...but the result is the same as for you ...the coroute is not recognized ...and I got the same message as you .

So, hope somebody else can have an explanation .
Sorry

jcdp
PS: generated FP from EFASS on my side (added 1 in the name)

Hi!
Thanks for coming back so soon. I expected that it won't work for you smile

This what bothers me most, that no one explains how could we get this working. Currently I cannot find ANY solution to make the FMC loading flight plans and it seems there is no way to save the route you entered manually. I think this would be a very basic feature, it is all about input, nothing else. Not a rocket science and it has nothing to do with the "realness" of the plane.
Btw, the spoiler (speedbrake) problem now became permanent. After takeoff, when I try, it works, but a few hours of flying later it won't work anymore and in addition neither the managed descent is working well, the plane easily gets to overspeed sad

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

Yoss wrote:
jcdp wrote:

Hi
I must say that I am surprised because the flight plan from KJFK to Iceland is , for me, the only one which is not recognized ...
I have just made a flight from KJFK to KORD without any trouble ... Spoilers working properly (they can be seen moving)...no overspeed ...
So let's wait for next update .
jcdp

Can you send that flightplan over to me, I would give it a try whether if I can load it or not. Thanks.


Here is the fp :



jcdp

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

Hi

To Ilankrt

Your flight plan works for me ...

Thanks

jcdp

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

ilankrt wrote:

Try:

KJFK SID PUT J42 BOS J55 ENE J573 EBONY N497C RIKAL NATT PIKIL DCT NINEX UN593 BAMRA UN584 SUM UP612 PEPIN P612 FLS N623 VALDI G3 NASBU STAR BIKF

Hi! Thanks for the idea, but the result is not good. See attached pics.

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

jcdp wrote:

Here is the fp :
jcdp

It's ok. SID is missing, but that's not an issue.
See pic.
Thanks! But this won't work with every route sad

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434 (edited by Yoss 2017-03-27 22:14:45)

Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

I guess, the problem is with the length of the FP. I am not sure about this, just suspicious as there is no difference in the formats.

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

Yoss wrote:

I guess, the problem is with the length of the FP. I am not sure about this, just suspicious as there is no difference in the formats.

Hi

A question : Is the Airac the same in EFASS and in A330 ?

I use Airac 1703 for all (Custom data A320 and A330 aircrafts etc ...)

jcdp

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

jcdp wrote:

Hi
A question : Is the Airac the same in EFASS and in A330 ?
I use Airac 1703 for all (Custom data A320 and A330 aircrafts etc ...)
jcdp

Yes, all of my aircrafts and the XP11 itself use cycle 1703. I have a subscription with Navigraph, so I always get the latest.

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

Test flight LTAI - LGAV, A330b9, X-Life 12r3, X-Plane b17

Nearly perfect flight. The only occurrence was that the thrust reversers didn't function although after landing activated.

Question to JAR: are there any restrictions that would prevent thrust reversers to deploy ? (e.g. certain speed limits...)
This was not the case under XP10. Thrust reversers were always functioning if activated.

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

Some of you will certainly see me as a notorious critic, but as someone who is very involved in the beta tests, I think I have a good reason. Beta tests have the task of helping JAR during the development process and not solving their own problems. Unfortunately 90% of all contributions are user questions which have to do with their own mistakes or incompetency. This fact does not contribute to the development of the model.

Even more annoying is the fact that the questioners often don't read the tutorials or watch appropriate videos to learn from their own mistakes. This could help to make fewer questions and to talk more about program bugs which should be then corrected by JAR.My appel is to invest more work in the learning for being qualified for contribution as beta tester. Personal questions could be dealt with somewhere else. Perhaps JAR should set up an extra discussion forum.

And to the x times the note: Please add to each contribution your soft- and hardware configuration. E.g. Almost always is not clear whether X-Life was activated ....

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

I have to agree. Those who use beta versions should understand that only reports pertaining to aircraft functionality are relevant and are intended, as ilankrt pointed out, to help improve the aircraft model. If you are having the same problem with a non-beta version then please report in that sub forum. And if you do, please always attach your log.txt as well. Otherwise, it's practically impossible for anyone to even begin to understand the issue.
I'd advise the following approach, one I arrived at after many months of initial frustration:
1) Always assume that you are making a mistake (or using a fix in a flightplan that is not recognized by the AIRAC, even if it is a current AIRAC).
2) Read pretty much most of the online documentation and watch the tutorials on a specific aircraft. I know it is a lot but this isn't just some game, it's a pretty realistic simulation of the real thing for which real pilots study and practice for years before they fly on their own and even then they always have a copilot.
3) Think about what you would want to know about someone's system and setup if you had to solve a problem for them and provide that information when you ask for help. The log.txt provides most of it but sometimes you need to add how many monitors you use etc.

So, coming back to beta, using an aircraft beta with XP11beta just multiplies the uncertainties and makes individual problem solving almost impossible. If you just want to enjoy flying a fantastic aircraft, like the A320/330, I strongly advise to stick with XP10 and the latest NON beta version of the aircraft.


ilankrt wrote:

Some of you will certainly see me as a notorious critic, but as someone who is very involved in the beta tests, I think I have a good reason. Beta tests have the task of helping JAR during the development process and not solving their own problems. Unfortunately 90% of all contributions are user questions which have to do with their own mistakes or incompetency. This fact does not contribute to the development of the model.

Even more annoying is the fact that the questioners often don't read the tutorials or watch appropriate videos to learn from their own mistakes. This could help to make fewer questions and to talk more about program bugs which should be then corrected by JAR.My appel is to invest more work in the learning for being qualified for contribution as beta tester. Personal questions could be dealt with somewhere else. Perhaps JAR should set up an extra discussion forum.

And to the x times the note: Please add to each contribution your soft- and hardware configuration. E.g. Almost always is not clear whether X-Life was activated ....

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

XP11 is no longer beta since late yesterday wink

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

sdflyer2003 wrote:

XP11 is no longer beta since late yesterday wink

Yep, it is release candidate 1 instead. Not much difference smile

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

I wish WX radar would work with xEnviro. I know xEnviro it's third party product but somehow IXEG and FF product able to pick up cells.

By the way any solution for erratic behavior at short final with light winds? It's been like that since (i believe beta 15) A330 behaves as it would strong gusting winds condition. I considered a possibility of a glitch with xEnviro and tried several approached under the same weather conditions with Rotate and FF aircraft and nothing like that happens. Other than that great aircraft.

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sdflyer2003 wrote:

I wish WX radar would work with xEnviro. I know xEnviro it's third party product but somehow IXEG and FF product able to pick up cells.

By the way any solution for erratic behavior at short final with light winds? It's been like that since (i believe beta 15) A330 behaves as it would strong gusting winds condition. I considered a possibility of a glitch with xEnviro and tried several approached under the same weather conditions with Rotate and FF aircraft and nothing like that happens. Other than that great aircraft.

Neither IXEG nor FF can pick up the cells. The developer of FF already advised that the folks at XENVIRO have not created an API to interact with weather radar...so nobody can interact with it.

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Wr269 wrote:

Neither IXEG nor FF can pick up the cells. The developer of FF already advised that the folks at XENVIRO have not created an API to interact with weather radar...so nobody can interact with it.

I only state something I have experienced. I saw cells on WX radar of either one while running xEnviro. I can't tell not how accurate it was, or how they technically implemented it. I haven't seen a single echo from Jardesign 320/330. I'm using them weekly

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

sdflyer2003 wrote:
Wr269 wrote:

Neither IXEG nor FF can pick up the cells. The developer of FF already advised that the folks at XENVIRO have not created an API to interact with weather radar...so nobody can interact with it.

I only state something I have experienced. I saw cells on WX radar of either one while running xEnviro. I can't tell not how accurate it was, or how they technically implemented it. I haven't seen a single echo from Jardesign 320/330. I'm using them weekly


That might be an important issue to discuss. I don't remember ever seeing clouds, cells etc. on weather radar screen......

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

sdflyer2003 wrote:
Wr269 wrote:

Neither IXEG nor FF can pick up the cells. The developer of FF already advised that the folks at XENVIRO have not created an API to interact with weather radar...so nobody can interact with it.

I only state something I have experienced. I saw cells on WX radar of either one while running xEnviro. I can't tell not how accurate it was, or how they technically implemented it. I haven't seen a single echo from Jardesign 320/330. I'm using them weekly

xenviro not share data to draw weather radar. We always in contact with them and wait.

Please read a FAQ before you post a bug http://support.jardesign.org

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

About nonworked flightplans - please read Error message at MCDU and lool into log.txt to understand what leg was wrong.

Please read a FAQ before you post a bug http://support.jardesign.org

448 (edited by Yoss 2017-04-01 21:12:53)

Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/4190/t/p1bcllmg4c1ksuv8vcgs1ivlat64.pngWhat causes this unbalanced throttle? Look at the N1!

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/4190/t/p1bclo9ier1lgfl0dp2e121k1m0g3.jpg
Same flight a bit later. Here the N1s are nearly balanced, but the EGT values are very unbalanced. I have no idea what can cause this, as everything looks OK with the plane otherwise, no cautions or whatsoever. Any idea, anyone?

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Re: v.2.0b1,b2,b3,b4,b5,b6,b7,b8,b9 for X-Plane 11 (Windows, MAC OS)

http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/4190/t/p1bcmvcep31tv11ill1fh6emb1b6j3.jpg
http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/4190/t/p1bcmvcn3d15ft9rlk1dq011ijm6.jpg
http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/4190/t/p1bcmvd0l211h913871ovj5r21s4u9.jpg
These pics were taken just now. It can be seen that spoilers don't work. You can see its set to full, then it has no effect and from outside that they are not moving. Log does not mention anything relevant to this. Idea? Is it a mistake in the plane or sim or?