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TDPlane wrote:

For the first time in two months or so ... no CTD. I was flying the v1.2b3 (from yesterday) KSLC34R - KLAS25R, FL320 and CI 20.

Push and Pull work OK; Rotate is a nuisance. It's very hard to dial in an altitude or a heading. You keep under- and overshooting the desired value in the MCP. The mouse wheel is a royal pain in the $ss. Is there a way to get the 'old' manipulator back?

What mouse you use? And what main difficult when use wheel? Too small area?

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Add, what about Ground Service? No it should work with doors/gpu/fuelpanel

???

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Re: v.1.2b3 distributive (Windows 7/8, MAC OS)

TDPlane wrote:

For the first time in two months or so ... no CTD. I was flying the v1.2b3 (from yesterday) KSLC34R - KLAS25R, FL320 and CI 20.

Push and Pull work OK; Rotate is a nuisance. It's very hard to dial in an altitude or a heading. You keep under- and overshooting the desired value in the MCP. The mouse wheel is a royal pain in the $ss. Is there a way to get the 'old' manipulator back?

For me it works very well. Could it have something to do with the scroll wheel sensitivity? Are you on mac or windows?

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J.A.Romanov wrote:

Add, what about Ground Service? No it should work with doors/gpu/fuelpanel

???

Everything seems to work so far, but I have only barely tried it. I have noticed that even though I ask the fuel truck to leave or hide, the fuel panel (where I can adjust fuel, increase or decrease) does not disappear. I can adjust the fuel level on the plane even though the fuel truck is not next to the plane.

30 (edited by Anterialis 2015-08-05 21:54:28)

Re: v.1.2b3 distributive (Windows 7/8, MAC OS)

I think this is a bug, but please correct me if Im wrong (which I might very well be...):

- iMac 27 El capitan beta 4
- xPlane 10.40b7
- Saitek Yoke
- Logitech G5 mouse + Trackpad (mac)

When taking off, the Navigation Display says that the AP is following runway track (picture 1), and this persists even after TO. The plane will not follow the preset flight path which the ND displays correctly. NAV mode is in blue beneath RWY tracking in green. How to activate Nav mode? Ive tried clicking the HDG knob, no avail. Am I doing something wrong? I believe I am doing exactly the same as I have always done, and it worked normally with beta 2 which I flew 1-2 days ago..

Pictures are in order. First is on the RWY during take off. Second is just after TO. Third is climbing on the SID, but as seen on the ND, the plane is still tracking RWY HDG, not the NAV / FMS. Last pictures shows that the HDG knob on the MCP/AP panel is correctly pressed (?).   Any ideas? Anybody else has it like this?
1
http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/29/t/p19rvtlp7e3b411cbakk6fu1qk73.png

2
http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/29/t/p19rvtlsm2kcg44u42us201g1p6.png

3
http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/29/t/p19rvtm0bt1qsev32p2c1glp1k699.png

4
http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/29/t/p19rvtm36j8hqd0u1rhr1pu613j6c.png

31 (edited by captbullett 2015-08-05 22:14:44)

Re: v.1.2b3 distributive (Windows 7/8, MAC OS)

Good day,
can you share the customization Please I do not use yoke just stick, and I use 10.10.4 no EL Captan..
thank-you
captbullett
P.S. this is it you are using a non Apple mouse and this is why it works but with a standard Apple mouse no-go ...Anterialis when beta testing it is better to test with stock so not to confuse what most people have. I only use stock you have windows mouse on Apple computer ... this can cause bug. ( what model Apple do you use also) ... MacBookPro ? and year...
captbullett

Anterialis wrote:

I forgot to mention that hmm push and pull works well! with the third beta! It did not work yesterday with the customized config file, but now it does smile

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What do you mean customizations? I have a fresh install of this beta, haven't done anything to it except set quick views (fresh, not imported from previous betas). smile

33 (edited by captbullett 2015-08-05 22:26:58)

Re: v.1.2b3 distributive (Windows 7/8, MAC OS)

Good day,
not beta but the mouse is different from stock like what Apple would use no? has nothing to do with the version of beta but I am talking about the mouse issue now and trying to resolve the //* Push-pull issue now // Apple does not use the version of mouse that you are using it is an add-on no? and can cause a bug no? this is just me talking out loud and problem solving ...
thank-you for your input.
captbullett

this link should help with Logitech g5 and Apple https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3535241?tstart=0

Anterialis wrote:

What do you mean customizations? I have a fresh install of this beta, haven't done anything to it except set quick views (fresh, not imported from previous betas). smile

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So, need your help to test MAC push-pull with this http://jardesign.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1183

Thank you!

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My experience is that with b2 I was able to complete a flight without CTD for the very first time since I own the A330 my push/pull were working and the ground service was working.
With b3 I'm having all sorts of problem, first the menu for the ground service has changed and there are two voices missing on the A330 plugin menu "Call all the vehicles" and" say bye bye to all the vehicles" well I don't remember the exact words so in order to have the ground vehicles I have to go to the ground service plugin menu instead, so this is different from b2 and that is probably the reason for the the erratic behaviourI experienced . Also some times the doors don't close and I have to try many times and also some vehicles behave erratically e.g. the stairs which do things like a ballerina smile
Finally the push/pull knobs they stop working after a while and bye bye flight! And I have the magic mouse, with X plane 10.40b7 and latest MAC OS. I would suggest not to get stuck on this push/pull knobs if they don't work they don't work lets get back to the main problem which is the lack of stability with MAC once that is finally achieved we can get all gimmicky with fancy stuff thanks!

36 (edited by Anterialis 2015-08-06 07:40:33)

Re: v.1.2b3 distributive (Windows 7/8, MAC OS)

Captbullet, aha now I understand. Yes, my set up is that I have the G5 mouse connected by usb, and the Apple trackpad by bluetooth (of course).

This morning I had an interesting finding. I started up this beta as usual after turning the iMac back on (it is turned off during the night). After this restart, the push/pull wouldn't work any more! Only the scroll function works. I reloaded the plane, and now the push/pull works again. Hmm, strange. The pull/push now works both with the G5 mouse and the trackpad, as it did yesterday.


---

The problem I am struggling with at the moment is that the AP NAV mode will not engage. Is it just me or does other people have the same? I read through some text in the FCOM yesterday, and the NAV mode is supposed to engage automatically at 30 feet radio altitude after take off, and it doesn't. It continues in RWY TRK mode... The same problem occurs if I activate HDG mode (pull hdg knob), which works. When I then want to reactivate NAV (e.g. by entering "Direct To" on the MCDU), it won't activate, it is stuck in HDG mode. Anyone experiencing these autopilot problems with NAV mode?

EDIT: I am just starting to think that maybe this can have something to do with the xPlane beta 7. I just tried again with A330 beta 1, and NAV still doesn't work... Then maybe its a XP problem..


FCOM descriptions, stating that what I am doing should turn on NAV mode (unless I misunderstand):

NAV mode. FCOM 1 page 177:
http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/29/t/p19s0o5flqiftg95q69vgp11dq3.png

RWY mode. FCOM 1 page 206:
http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/29/t/p19s0o5flq31d30tvkggqa11b94.png





captbullett wrote:

Good day,
not beta but the mouse is different from stock like what Apple would use no? has nothing to do with the version of beta but I am talking about the mouse issue now and trying to resolve the //* Push-pull issue now // Apple does not use the version of mouse that you are using it is an add-on no? and can cause a bug no? this is just me talking out loud and problem solving ...
thank-you for your input.
captbullett

this link should help with Logitech g5 and Apple https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3535241?tstart=0

Anterialis wrote:

What do you mean customizations? I have a fresh install of this beta, haven't done anything to it except set quick views (fresh, not imported from previous betas). smile

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Re: v.1.2b3 distributive (Windows 7/8, MAC OS)

Mac OS 10.10.4
X-Plane 10.40b7
Apple Magic Mouse (Bluetooth)
MagicPrefs installed.

Push and Pull doesn't work. Scrolling with out problems.

and @Anterialis: Here NAV Mode won't engage either.

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Re: v.1.2b3 distributive (Windows 7/8, MAC OS)

Seems like XP last beta (10.40b7) is to blame. I just read through this forum thread, and people are complaning about several issues after installing latest XP beta..

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J.A.Romanov wrote:
TDPlane wrote:

For the first time in two months or so ... no CTD. I was flying the v1.2b3 (from yesterday) KSLC34R - KLAS25R, FL320 and CI 20.

Push and Pull work OK; Rotate is a nuisance. It's very hard to dial in an altitude or a heading. You keep under- and overshooting the desired value in the MCP. The mouse wheel is a royal pain in the $ss. Is there a way to get the 'old' manipulator back?

What mouse you use? And what main difficult when use wheel? Too small area?

I'm using a Logitech Mouse (Ultrax Optical). The changes in e.g. altitude do not respond well to mouse wheel movements. Every time it's a long shot when you move the mouse wheel up or down. It takes 10 to 15 seconds sometimes to nail it.

Sierra 10.13.6 - 4.5 GHz i7 - Retina 5120 x 2880 - 16 GB - Radeon Pro 580 8 GB - X-Plane 11 - Ravcore Javelin - 767 FF - 777 FF - 787 Dreamliner - plugin tester Airbus A350 FF - A320Neo JD - A380 PH - A330 PH - alpha/beta tester A330 JD - CRJ200 - beta tester 747-8i SSG - IXEG 733 - EADT 737-800 v5 - 757 v2 FF - ZIBO 737-800 - SSG Embrear 195 - FF A320

40 (edited by captbullett 2015-08-06 15:24:45)

Re: v.1.2b3 distributive (Windows 7/8, MAC OS)

Good day,
Well, I seem to like the 10.40b7 and everything I have done with it so, far has worked well for me also, knowing that I do have to make some adjustments when up-dating to a new version of XP when a new Beta comes out I usually don't have the issues that most people talk about.
Some times, reinstalling a plugin is what it takes or an aircraft, or Navigraph update is needed but per the norms always, install a second copy for the beta if you don't want issues that I haven't even done in the past...

Nevertheless, this time the .avi files even work so, you can now make movies on the mac again so, there are improvements and the people that were complaining are the one's that usually complain about everything so, I test and make a opinion for myself since, each computer is set-up different we all must work together to resolve any issues.
captbullett

P.S Bata XP  is not issue other wise A330 stable version would not work and it does just fine.

Anterialis wrote:

Seems like XP last beta (10.40b7) is to blame. I just read through this forum thread, and people are complaning about several issues after installing latest XP beta..

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This time a CTD with the v1.2b3. OS X did not generate a crash report; X-Plane vanished within a tenth of a second or so.

Changing/adapting the view with the down arrow caused the CTD. I programmed the flight and was ready to take off. It took me 20 minutes to get this far. Before the crash I noticed that filling in the CRZ ALT in the PRG page, took almost a minute for the LSK1 to react. The yellow light kept illuminated for almost a minute and the FPS counter stood still for all this time.

This is not good. Probably SASL ... according to the log text.

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Re: v.1.2b3 distributive (Windows 7/8, MAC OS)

Good day,
you have done so much testing your preferences are out of whack I don't know how to clear them so, you don't loose all your setting but you do need to clean them up so, the sim know what to do and maybe re-starting the computer then the XP app will be enough to clean everything up so, you can start over again.
captbullett   

Anterialis wrote:

Captbullet, aha now I understand. Yes, my set up is that I have the G5 mouse connected by usb, and the Apple trackpad by bluetooth (of course).

This morning I had an interesting finding. I started up this beta as usual after turning the iMac back on (it is turned off during the night). After this restart, the push/pull wouldn't work any more! Only the scroll function works. I reloaded the plane, and now the push/pull works again. Hmm, strange. The pull/push now works both with the G5 mouse and the trackpad, as it did yesterday.


---

The problem I am struggling with at the moment is that the AP NAV mode will not engage. Is it just me or does other people have the same? I read through some text in the FCOM yesterday, and the NAV mode is supposed to engage automatically at 30 feet radio altitude after take off, and it doesn't. It continues in RWY TRK mode... The same problem occurs if I activate HDG mode (pull hdg knob), which works. When I then want to reactivate NAV (e.g. by entering "Direct To" on the MCDU), it won't activate, it is stuck in HDG mode. Anyone experiencing these autopilot problems with NAV mode?

EDIT: I am just starting to think that maybe this can have something to do with the xPlane beta 7. I just tried again with A330 beta 1, and NAV still doesn't work... Then maybe its a XP problem..


FCOM descriptions, stating that what I am doing should turn on NAV mode (unless I misunderstand):

NAV mode. FCOM 1 page 177:
http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/29/t/p19s0o5flqiftg95q69vgp11dq3.png

RWY mode. FCOM 1 page 206:
http://jardesign.org/forum/img/m/29/t/p19s0o5flq31d30tvkggqa11b94.png





captbullett wrote:

Good day,
not beta but the mouse is different from stock like what Apple would use no? has nothing to do with the version of beta but I am talking about the mouse issue now and trying to resolve the //* Push-pull issue now // Apple does not use the version of mouse that you are using it is an add-on no? and can cause a bug no? this is just me talking out loud and problem solving ...
thank-you for your input.
captbullett

this link should help with Logitech g5 and Apple https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3535241?tstart=0

Anterialis wrote:

What do you mean customizations? I have a fresh install of this beta, haven't done anything to it except set quick views (fresh, not imported from previous betas). smile

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Re: v.1.2b3 distributive (Windows 7/8, MAC OS)

Good day,
a public service announcement from XP ;

http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?sho … ntry939035  the B7 breaks FMC on several aircraft but the A330, and A320neo are not on the list ...

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Re: v.1.2b3 distributive (Windows 7/8, MAC OS)

fix 1 for this beta:

ok, if you are on MAC and push-pull not work for you, please try this mac.xpl (need delete old from .../X-PLANE 10/Aircraft/330.../plugins/330/ and put new there).

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Tonight I'll try this beta on Windows 10. I'll keep you updated if there are problems.

OS: Windows 10 64bit -  XP 10.36 Computer Specs: | CPU: Intel Quad i7-2600K@4.6GHz |GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 Ghz Edition |MOBO: ASRock Z75Pro3 |Case: Cooler Matser HAF932 |RAM: 16GB DDR3 @1866 Corsairl|PSU: Corsair TX850M
| Pedals: CSPv1 | Hotas: Thrustmaster Warthog /Thrustmaster MFD Cougar Pack /Saitek Throttle Quadrant
| Headset: Tritton AX 720 | TrackiR 5

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New ground service working here. There are some few minor problems and some things that I would change but is working ok. GPU connects correclty, Fuel panel show up when I call the truck, ecc. Great job overall.

I had some trouble with STAR and transition on some airports but I've read that is a know problem right?

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mosquito3 wrote:

New ground service working here. There are some few minor problems and some things that I would change but is working ok. GPU connects correclty, Fuel panel show up when I call the truck, ecc. Great job overall.

I had some trouble with STAR and transition on some airports but I've read that is a know problem right?

Yes. Ok, Thanks for report!

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Re: v.1.2b3 distributive (Windows 7/8, MAC OS)

Hi,

MacOS 10.10.4
MagicMouse
X-Plane 10.40b7

Restarted X-Plane twice, both time working push/pull - looks good so far!

Cheers,
Tim

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meistersoda wrote:

Hi,

MacOS 10.10.4
MagicMouse
X-Plane 10.40b7

Restarted X-Plane twice, both time working push/pull - looks good so far!

Cheers,
Tim

With fix1?

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50 (edited by Anterialis 2015-08-07 05:21:24)

Re: v.1.2b3 distributive (Windows 7/8, MAC OS)

Downloaded the fix. Push-pull works as before, scroll is still hard to use / not accurate. It was perfect on XP 10.40b7, one click translating to one "turn" on the knob on the FCU, which meant it was super easy (and simply perfect) to put the numbers in. After rolling back to last stable XP version, 10.36, this turning is very bad. Its very hard to use, and in stead of 1 s to turn to correct number, I now often use 10s.

I hope this will change soon... smile